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Date:      Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:32:20 -0700
From:      John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@efn.org>
To:        Robert Watson <robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Proposal: remove existing schg flags from make buildworld
Message-ID:  <19980417173220.12782@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980417163946.11132C-100000@trojanhorse.pr.watson.org>; from Robert Watson on Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 04:44:29PM -0400
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980417163946.11132C-100000@trojanhorse.pr.watson.org>

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Robert Watson scribbled this message on Apr 17:
> Currently, the use of schg flags can be a major hassle for those trying to
> build secure systems.  Performing a build world generates a set of schg
> files that are hard to deal with in a secure environment (after all, they
> are schg :).  Rather than imposing the schg flags during the build, it
> might be more appropriate to apply them only during the install.  Even
> blowing away my object tree is made difficult:

just buildworld as a normal user...  I've been doing this for close to
a half year now..  and if this is such a secure environment, why are
you doing this as root??

[...]

> There is nothing gained by doing this -- the source is not protected, and
> neither is the compiler :).  Clearly on an install, it is useful to apply
> schg (although previous discussion suggests that this is not the case with
> the current arrangement :), but not during the build process.

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