Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:41:45 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey <kdk@daleco.biz> To: cliftonr@lava.net, FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 Message-ID: <48470C19.90709@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <20080604204325.GD4701@lava.net> References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <4846D849.2090005@FreeBSD.org> <20080604204325.GD4701@lava.net>
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Clifton Royston wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 11:00:41AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >> Jo Rhett wrote: > ... >>> But given that 6.3 is still experiencing bugs with things that >>> are working fine and stable in 6.2, this is a pretty hard case to make. >> I admit to not having been following 6.x too closely, but are these >> things that have been reported, or problems you're having personally? > > Speaking just for myself, I'd love to get a general response from > people who have run servers on both as to whether 6.3 is on average > more stable than 6.2. I really haven't gotten any clear impression as > to this, either from posts on -hackers or -stable, and I believe I > asked a couple times. I've seen comments that 6.3 should be > considerably more stable than 6.2, but also complaints about bugs such > as Jo is commenting on, and I have not seen much committed in the way > of errata fixes for 6.3 since its release. > > I'd love to pick up some more stability, but I'm feeling a little > burned by 6.2 relative to 4.10, and thus twice wary. > > >>> This is also a fairly significant investment in terms of time and money >>> for any business to handle this ugprade. >> Having an upgrade path is something every operation needs. "Set it and >> forget it" isn't a viable strategy in the current culture where 0-day >> vulnerabilities are becoming increasingly common. > > Fair enough. > > Now I must confess my ignorance; is there a simplest straightforward > way to upgrade multiple servers between releases in the same branch, > other than rebuilding each from source, or wiping and reinstalling? In > the past I've always done one of those two. Define "between releases"? If you have a machine running N.NR, then freebsd-update(8), maybe? Just a thought, and that not thought through, > For example, if I take a 6.3R CD, or build one for 6-RELENG, is there > a way to do an "upgrade in place" on each server? Or would it work > better to do a build from recent source on the development server, then > export /usr/src and /usr/obj via NFS to the production servers and do > the usual "make installkernel; reboot;" etc. sequence on them? (In my > case I do have all machines on one GigE switch.) > > -- Clifton I've heard of the latter being done with decent results. Kevin Kinsey -- No amount of careful planning will ever replace dumb luck.
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