Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 17:13:09 -0800 From: Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> To: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> Cc: freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Anyone know how to get FreeBSD on a framework 13 laptop? Message-ID: <b02b5f92f47d637515b9d6c2d762f7c6@bsdforge.com> In-Reply-To: <20251219235842.19AB0194@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <63ebfc5a49b38196ead43b7403f0a12c@bsdforge.com> <20251210063425.88020295@slippy.cwsent.com> <e82ea00af8810db582f801c65fefe3a5@bsdforge.com> <b36150cbaf14ac3556b49cb13448b810@bsdforge.com> <20251219235842.19AB0194@slippy.cwsent.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On 2025-12-19 15:58, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <b36150cbaf14ac3556b49cb13448b810@bsdforge.com>, Chris writes: >> --=_1b0692ae38549bba337f38a469e0c31c >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; >> format=flowed >> >> On 2025-12-09 23:35, Chris wrote: >> > On 2025-12-09 22:34, Cy Schubert wrote: >> >> In message <63ebfc5a49b38196ead43b7403f0a12c@bsdforge.com>, Chris writes: >> >>> --=_1fa5024c3e762cfee18202d6a7376470 >> >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; >> >>> format=flowed >> >>> >> >>> OK because I know you're going to ask... :-) >> >>> >> >>> framework 13 laptop (MSI Crosshair 18 HX AI A2XWGKG-012US)[1],[2] >> >>> CPU: Intel Core Ultra 9 Processor 275HX [3] >> >>> GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Laptop GPU with NVIDIA Optimus supported [4] >> >>> LAN: Realtec RTL???? 2.5Gb >> >>> WiFi: Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX211(2*2 ax) >> >>> >> >>> I'm currently unable to boot any of 13.5,14.n,15.n or 16 on this laptop. >> >>> On 13.5 it hangs on sc (syscons(4)?) connect... >> >> >> >> Add this, >> >> >> >> kern.vty=vt >> >> >> >> to your loader.conf. >> > Really appreciate your taking the time to reply, Cy. >> > Just tried this. But same results. FWIW, I only saw the syscons message >> > on 13.5. I've since made a 16-CURRENT from the kernel,base and lib32 >> > archives >> > that were on ftp.freebsd.org (now missing). >> >> >> >> If you look at the sc(4) man page you will notice, >> > I know. :) >> > >> >> As to how I got my Framework 13 (with AMD chipset) installed, I cloned >> >> FreeBSD, including all data, from my HP 840, also running in UEFI mode, >> >> changing fstab and rc.conf to customize a few things before booting the >> >> Framework laptop. (The HP 840 also uses kern.vty=vt.) >> > Close to what I did to get 16 on my framework 12. All the right bits weren' >> t >> > yet available at that time. All good now tho. >> > >> OK after booting 13.5-16 FreeBSD and all the BSD versions I >> could find. They all ended at either: >> >> sc0 failed to probe on isa0 >> >> or >> >> atrtc1 : Warning: Couldn't map I/O. > > Can you describe your Framework 13? Does it have an Intel or AMD chipset? Appreciate your taking the time to reply, Cy. This was in the dmesg's I attached, But sure. :-) CPU: cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 9 275HX, 5282.59 MHz, 06-c6-02, patch 00000117 EFI (no bios): bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 3.8 @ 0x62bb5000 (89 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends International, LLC. version "E1841IMS.109" date 09/23/2025 bios0: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Crosshair 18 HX AI A2XWGKG efi0 at bios0: UEFI 2.9 efi0: American Megatrends rev 0x50020 HTH Thanks, again! > > What's the BIOS version? > > > -- > Cheers, > Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> > FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD.org> Web: https://FreeBSD.org > NTP: <cy@nwtime.org> Web: https://nwtime.org > > e**(i*pi)+1=0 > > >> >> Which seemed to me, that I simply lost the CON at that point. >> So since it rebooted some 3 seconds after that point. I looked >> at the dmesg.boot on my framework 12 to see if I might determine >> where/what triggered the reboot. Looked like it might be the >> nvme. So spun up a live Ubuntu image. It gave me a desktop and a >> dmesg[1]. But no nvme drive! The drive options in the UEFI are >> fairly basic. Turns out the drive is handled by the Intel VMD >> Controller. Neither Linux nor BSD understand/have drivers for >> the VMD Controller. Only Windows. Interestingly, rEFIt[2] does. >> So I found a keyboard macro that exposes some 300+ additional >> options/sub-options: ~200+ CPU / ~100+ arbitration and turned >> off the VMD Controller in the CPU. Now Linux sees and will >> manage the drive if I ask it to. On a hunch, I decided to give >> OpenBSD a try. Booted perfectly[3] w/o any problems! Would >> happily install to the drive if asked to! When did OpenBSD >> become more advanced than FreeBSD? >> >> Here's hoping that the 2 dmesg files attached will help isolate >> the problem. I'll happily perform any additional tasks requested. >> >> Thanks for all your time and consideration! >> >> --Chris >> > >> >> To boot the Framework from install media, break to the loader prompt and >> >> type in, >> >> >> >> kern.vty=vt >> >> >> >> Then boot. Install FreeBSD. Finally, make sure kern.vty=vt is in the >> >> installed image's loader.conf before rebooting the image. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> > -- There is no such place as the internet [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- mQENBGf/G0IBCADARuJc6IcwOe3jv7dQsP1X/EIHvCFExPbTmlMNFMXbMMccQUnV o8ayEn+wmTvPhw7uL3PDk7DQs16W1sN2b8UMFc804cVWNGtoG3rA+Np+TFEYlXJx eh5Q42VHptkuwzHKl+q2utkpRlS7uHyfjsInQAoHxLyi/wrsaZTHHhDbLLhJ5Ez0 arohQ2Q1w0M5e9rW8Fy5rpC7RpC6uO1SZMxcbdqURI/BBqxbiD1iW62cDWFkfFX+ dtaEXghFV7BIBMDSrgIunGoEfdMZgXys7O6bPWn8z0cuOZIPj4HrjoCYARyQ+sdc rjz/k06SLM/UvEZDorJhT4DbYrwMNvaPWJiPABEBAAG0HkNocmlzIDxic2QtbGlz dHNAYnNkZm9yZ2UuY29tPokBNQQQAQgAHwUCZ/8bQgYLCQcIAwIEFQgKAgMWAgEC GQECGwMCHgEACgkQVKBqaOUSci8bSwf/fK3QcTYXRMrv82HIp4SiGCSD7/bRmyWr ipv2vzknGFHxPBN4AEWIqF/U4j5oDXaodyU6xsy59Z47/lgbyzyZiVR6nmJVgZVf el/EgwnLt7ZuYGLLEhIN2pd9itJkB8PMPZrUHMWgIw8BxX5YFYGuyiNe9pGn0Coj 98t/v3fouhqksH+BpB4TBHJBBDSxSiMm66VTJX4Xcnpf0ZnQVP4GBuoyodnFBfdI wqftPLESsCC08lUhD2j7v2NRWwMi/q3ed8D6VCKPImBByYnBZL5gu56K5bwqaQfN itu06APuIYnG71qxgn1EPO63lovWP5NZGgOKvzs3K+JfPF79BiOUFbQjQ2hyaXMg PG1haWxvcEBocmNvbW11bmljYXRpb25zLm5ldD6JATEEEAEIABwFAmf/G0IGCwkH CAMCBBUICgIDFgIBAhsDAh4BAAoJEFSgamjlEnIvBH8H9RGwzZuU6+zvH1WjQa97 yWpEt9rC+BIBJThev2Cpls2LqBqIeIQVZPnyLAZWgFaiezL6+xbvcNt6OnfidIYa x8iRwCMC6/Bs8H2Wef9qfGxXi+jHPLYQk3juiZVmBhIK6FJZkzaW4wSiawofwzbp zqNxO8dZ0j4foaJZrNi8iqsvKjiiHoSFaJtumIThAeydI18CNLeFaS53sk5nad6I wCYeFKmJ/22dMP7DOFEgyG1iNYgY+AGREMkEsBiLpqYjJ5asK+1UdUy/TRly1hOt HHxCiX0Fh9ZYM2vLIj7sq4LKaMPGeYC3qTqBYugVeyz7LkiI2ft/BKveA5JxuYKk ZrQiQ2hyaXMgPG5hbm9nQGhyY29tbXVuaWNhdGlvbnMubmV0PokBMgQQAQgAHAUC Z/8bQgYLCQcIAwIEFQgKAgMWAgECGwMCHgEACgkQVKBqaOUSci+4Bwf8D0Ogk2/X ud/CsAgHozwzKPqfesL5SRWM14hLnU9/EHoplnZgNexbVY1wXIi2FYPo5cve9QxW Nmt3S3UTF9j2fGqv0wmeHv3EqogFUHnftLyWpbeTPOFDMIQp/BOD6ygfeXxXWxRT L6zvUkSrDtHvkQHPWGRxwP+ihWjpw9AQR/R4/qAuTAZZM0O7UnJEo4mWXatl+utF wegG2giwFTTxfF+1rMpFtUDjYCpRQ6ZmE+gC1mHUMoH7GJMQv12DbqwKrxtwGfd0 AJNO3ZDnxl24BmIfl1YqQGZQ5iIH7At4YItESbU45hoNNsG9oDrsil78EUCAtXHd UPScj+eXaeAkgrQfQ2hyaXMgPHBvcnRtYXN0ZXJAYnNkZm9yZ2UuY29tPokBMgQQ AQgAHAUCZ/8bQgYLCQcIAwIEFQgKAgMWAgECGwMCHgEACgkQVKBqaOUSci9o7Af+ Lwu5hJlI5HZNGwAll7QTIFZVW+y4OEg+amhxTDGbAAqlnSIkHC1KgkmIOOrThme3 kTFCqfIIsuP73yKxHq6kRG0zH5/7asAPNAUOfzD7B2o/gMyuTRKyG5r9f3UmACr4 6qvtFhIwROXr6+NNT2IKg3l0/8F58A0N/TR8D2PTHeo4x6jYcZQDCrCy7BAdk3cu V16k4z/1UzRa07b5McezbWL20cIaZ+dqNcCjKZpzPlTyTCGgrNNtaDpNVhoWUKMB YNcKql+tfC1IpX8l+IU6OBKcDKMkQojvO1QrZqY8MDJGo8jq/CtotQ8+IpAai3Bx dQEsxrxlcKTR4rUqvd8VGbkBDQRn/xtCAQgAv5Nv/aQN72xsLik+K73PJwpUmyhu vnI6stM6dSecylXVHjZ7C4n/m0eQEeQCl+9lByHR9N8H+WS3DtAd4pmciiIxRQLA JZiuaLYcy9ziy1h7130VoR7hhJHzo9FIhWkTGlCDX3egUZrYhMiwFUO8lNltLB8o TBvIrMSsnUzawtQjq/otv0Jf+oBPbG+gIYnAm7w6r86n/l+eVxf5eEoS7wV0DJfp b2jE5zWErWk8I/tq4e8T+1VQeVQR6wz+NrUCSxkPkpNAm19AFUHOk//yvMGWVlDW F6gr3ErN2a0w/kZ0lz3Msxsb87QT+MnJf/T3cuEqdTIoSk74BfNEAdMohQARAQAB iQEfBBgBCAAJBQJn/xtCAhsMAAoJEFSgamjlEnIvyvIH/26zytSVNDaxtprg7XtX LerIWf9RyVx8omCw/lXKRCcgkfwD7QR+nSZ0thWOGMpcnivjuReeVRkz/webUF47 BXJ/Tge07nrxdtyTIHBbp35fPIriaKaII6YWc2Ufdxwv+cD8PADS6gQWAlgrWLmn VmYtyHs4kwtiPZyUyuBdWnZal2GyYY0WVwYjvbk95eInwOaIdoTjesJ7ZhUFu155 r4hh9GlvM0uv8WJ5Mw9wvHa5fIM205I5g0IWC7yvTwwwKHlV4JQQOqMwfv569OEl 1GKqA12nSVziB1+UV+I0NqOABWi/MOi+IySPzYP+XgdPfRNx4vmoHYZwWOQ3t4Jd TEM= =oj6y -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----help
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