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Date:      Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:34:15 +0100
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.demon.nl>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
Cc:        Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@aciri.org>, keichii@peorth.iteration.net, FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: hotplug ata device?
Message-ID:  <20010218103415.B4042@freebie.demon.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200102180224.f1I2O6W93349@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 07:24:06PM -0700
References:  <200102180220.f1I2KKR21592@iguana.aciri.org> <200102180224.f1I2O6W93349@harmony.village.org>

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On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 07:24:06PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <200102180220.f1I2KKR21592@iguana.aciri.org> Luigi Rizzo writes:
> : i actually wonder, aren't there removable disk frames which support
> : hot swap (by turning off power with the keylock, or the like) ?
> 
> I've not seen any, but I suppose they exist.  The TAPR ones, however,
> definitely are not those beasts.  they are simple and don't support
> hotswap.
> 
> : Plus, it is actually curious that you can fry the IDE controller,
> : the simplest ones used to be just a couple of '245 and an
> : address decoder...
> 
> I think that the main problem is lack of good grounding causing large
> transients when the card is removed.  But I could be wrong about
> that.  Each time I fried one it was definitely a remove + insert
> sequence.

Thanks for all the input :-) I will stop my hot-swap experiments here and
now. To think that a few stupid TTL buffer chips would have made it
possible to hotswap :-(

W/

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