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Date:      Tue, 28 May 2002 10:43:11 +0200
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>
To:        David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU>
Cc:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.ORG>, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.ORG>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Language in danger: Language loss
Message-ID:  <20020528104311.A37937@lpt.ens.fr>
In-Reply-To: <20020527184817.A1485@HAL9000.wox.org>; from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU on Mon, May 27, 2002 at 06:48:17PM -0700
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David Schultz said on May 27, 2002 at 18:48:17:
> > Anyway, there's an alternative: put an e after the non-umlauted
> > letter, like the others have done.  Just replacing it with a different
> > letter is wrong.
> 
> Forgive my ignorance of diacritical marks; I'm just a stupid American.
> Actually, English has dropped the marks from a number of German words.

In French it's normal to drop accents when it's inconvenient to write
them (and, often, in capital letters even when it is possible to write
them).  It makes sense to me.  "Godel" is the normal spelling in
English.

> Names like Gödel are not among them, but English still does far better
> than languages that insist that all foreign words must be spelled
> phoenetically.

Was that meant to be "phönetically"? :)

I agree, every language distorts foreign words and foreign names.
French is by far the worst offender I've seen (eg, "Jean-Sebastien
Bach," and I'm not even getting started on names from non-Roman
scripts like Indian languages).  English by and large is not so bad;
it doesn't have accents "natively", so it's not terribly necessary to
use them, in my opinion; and unless you're a trained German writer,
the most obvious way out is to drop them altogether. 

- Rahul

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