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Date:      Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:16:32 -0800
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Max Laier <max@love2party.net>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: bikeshed for all!
Message-ID:  <47606BD0.7050005@elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <200712130007.20720.max@love2party.net>
References:  <476061FD.8050500@elischer.org> <200712130007.20720.max@love2party.net>

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Max Laier wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 December 2007, Julian Elischer wrote:
>> So, I'm playing with some multiple routing table support..
>> the first version is a minimal impact version with very limited
>> functionality. It's done that way so I can put it in RELENG_6/7 without
>> breaking ABIs (I hope). Later there will be a more flexible version
>> for-current.
>>
>> Here's the question..
>>
>> I need a word to use to describe the network view one is currently on..
>> e.g. if you are usinghe second routing table, you could say I've set
>> xxx to 1 (0 based)..
>>
>>
>> current;y in my code I'm using 'universe' but I don't like that..
>>
>> one could think of it as a routing plane..
>> each routing plane has he same interfaces on it but they are logically
>> treated differently becasue each plane has a different routing table.
>>
>>
>> so here's an axample of  it in use now...
>> the names should change...
>>
>> setuniverse 1 netstat -rn
>> [shows table 1]
>> setuniverse 2 route add 10.0.0.0/24 192.168.2.1
>> setuinverse 1 route add 10.0.0.0/24 192.168.3.1
>> setuniverse 2 route -n get 10.0.0.3
>> [shows 192.168.2.1]
>> setuniverse 1 route -n get 10.0.0.3
>> [shows 192.168.3.1]
>> setuniverse 2 start_apache
>> [appache starts, always using 192.168.2.1 to reach the 10.0.0 net.
>>
>>
>> also the syscall is setuniverse()
>>
>> so, you see I really need a better name....
>> setrtab?
>>
>> rtab? rtbl?
>>
>> and the command should be called "????"
> 
> FWIW, OpenBSD just added a "-T num" switch to concerned programs like 
> route and netstat.  As far as I can tell they rely entirely on pf to 
> select a table - so there is no way to start a program "inside" a certain 
> network view.  OTOH, how - in your system - would you decide which table 
> to use for forwarded packets?

ipfw/pf/ipf rule (not yet added) :-)

> 
> More to the bikeshed pov, "universe" seems rather broad.  "netview" comes 
> to mind.  "rtabselect", though that has a lot of characters, but then 
> again "setuniverse" is even one char longer ;)
> 




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