Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:08:03 -0800 From: Devin Teske <devin.teske@fisglobal.com> To: Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com> Cc: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>, Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Benjamin Kaduk <bjk@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: old style kernel configuration Message-ID: <E1C198DF-D38D-4FB7-8A4A-497A9F97C1C9@fisglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <CADLo83-mXy_A%2BF-8Cc=8_F-=7rKt3v0fs-qrXt-ipU%2Bwa9uHtg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAF6rxgmxiaA1twJf%2BKMv=ZpxCWp1MdL5GEEEFLwBuRqcGpctdQ@mail.gmail.com> <CA3661C3-2DF7-40F3-8581-CCE994CC5689@fisglobal.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1211221726110.7420@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CADLo838geX8yXtnAx1Zu4RmXNZUPtBuexiCNZ7jKipPTictCNw@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1211221955280.8996@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CADLo83-mXy_A%2BF-8Cc=8_F-=7rKt3v0fs-qrXt-ipU%2Bwa9uHtg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Nov 22, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Chris Rees wrote: >=20 > On 22 Nov 2012 18:56, "Wojciech Puchar" <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> = wrote: > >> > >> > >> How is it simpler? > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> > > strange question i thought it is obviously clear. > > > > $EDITOR config > > config <kernel> > > cd ../compile/<kernel> > > make depend > > make > > make install > > > > > > that's all. and no need to keep whole /usr/src, just sys > > > > what is wrong in it? >=20 > I was only confused because you had asserted that six commands was simple= r-- >=20 I can relate to Mr Puchar's vantage point. It's not the number of commands, it's the pathos. Memorizing how to configure a custom kernel, one can memorize two different= pathos: =3D=3D=3D A =3D=3D=3D I have to make a config file I have to use the make(1) utility within a full src-tree to produce the ker= nel from that config I can't remember the arguments to make =3D=3D=3D B =3D=3D=3D I have to make a config file I have to use the config(1) utility on my config file The config(1) utility tells me what to do after I run it, I do what config(= 1) tells me =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D In both A and B, we start with a config file. Things differ from there. I do buy the argument that B is simpler than A, despite the fact that B req= uires more commands than A. B can be thought-of as simpler because I only h= ave to memorize three things to get a kernel: (1) start with a config file,= (2) run config with said file (3) follow the instructions that config give= s me. Meanwhile, in comparison, A requires the memorization of different an= d arguably less accessible information. One might even be able to argue that the pathos of B is simpler because it = relies on a purpose-built tool (config(1)) to get you where you want to be = versus a multi-purpose tool (make(1)). Just my tuppence. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.
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