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Date:      Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:36:45 +0200
From:      Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>
To:        FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org,  freebsd-usb@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ukbd attachment and root mount
Message-ID:  <491ABFCD.3060309@icyb.net.ua>
In-Reply-To: <4911BA93.9030006@icyb.net.ua>
References:  <4911BA93.9030006@icyb.net.ua>

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on 05/11/2008 17:24 Andriy Gapon said the following:
> System is FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 amd64.
> 
> Looking through my dmesg I see that relative order of ukbd attachment
> and root mounting is not deterministic. Sometime keyboard is attached
> first, sometimes root filesystem is mounted first. Quite more often root
> is mounted first, though.
> Example (with GENERIC kernel):
> Nov  3 15:40:54  kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/bootgm
> Nov  3 15:40:54  kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label ufs/bootfs removed.
> Nov  3 15:40:54  kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mirror/bootgm is
> ufs/bootfs.
> Nov  3 15:40:54  kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label ufs/bootfs removed.
> Nov  3 15:40:54  kernel: ukbd0: <CHESEN USB Keyboard, class 0/0, rev
> 1.10/1.10, addr 3> on uhub2
> Nov  3 15:40:54  kernel: kbd2 at ukbd0
> Nov  3 15:40:54  kernel: uhid0: <CHESEN USB Keyboard, class 0/0, rev
> 1.10/1.10, addr 3> on uhub2
> 
> Another (with custom kernel, zfs root):
> Nov  4 17:54:03 odyssey kernel: Trying to mount root from zfs:tank/root
> Nov  4 17:54:03 odyssey kernel: ukbd0: <CHESEN USB Keyboard, class 0/0,
> rev 1.10/1.10, addr 3> on uhub2
> Nov  4 17:54:03 odyssey kernel: kbd2 at ukbd0
> Nov  4 17:54:03 odyssey kernel: kbd2: ukbd0, generic (0), config:0x0,
> flags:0x3d0000
> Nov  4 17:54:03 odyssey kernel: uhid0: <CHESEN USB Keyboard, class 0/0,
> rev 1.10/1.10, addr 3> on uhub2
> 
> I have a legacy-free system (no PS/2 ports, only USB) and I wanted to
> try a kernel without atkbd and psm (with ums, ukbd, kbdmux), but was
> bitten hard when I made a mistake and kernel could not find/mount root
> filesystem.
> 
> So I stuck at mountroot prompt without a keyboard to enter anything.
> This was repeatable about 10 times after which I resorted to live cd.
> 
> Since then I put back atkbdc into my kernel. I guess BIOS or USB
> hardware emulate AT or PS/2 keyboard, so the USB keyboard works before
> the driver attaches. I guess I need such emulation e.g. for loader or
> boot0 configuration. But I guess I don't have to have atkbd driver in
> kernel.

This turned out not to be a complete solution as it seems that there are
some quirks about legacy USB here, sometimes keyboard stops working even
at loader prompt (this is described in a different thread).

ukbd attachment still puzzles me a lot.
I look at some older dmesg, e.g. this 7.0-RELEASE one:
http://www.mavetju.org/mail/view_message.php?list=freebsd-usb&id=2709973
and see that ukbd attaches along with ums before mountroot.

I look at newer dmesg and I see that ums attaches at about the same time
as before but ukbd consistently attaches after mountroot.
I wonder what might cause such behavior and how to fix it.
I definitely would like to see ukbd attach before mountroot, I can debug
this issue, but need some hints on where to start.

-- 
Andriy Gapon



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