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Date:      Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:29:49 +0100
From:      Andre Oppermann <andre@freebsd.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
Cc:        Sepherosa Ziehau <sepherosa@gmail.com>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Bjoern Zeeb <bz@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] Add a new TCP_IGNOREIDLE socket option
Message-ID:  <5109588D.9070504@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <5109543B.4020304@mu.org>
References:  <201301221511.02496.jhb@freebsd.org> <201301291350.39931.jhb@freebsd.org> <5108562A.1040603@freebsd.org> <201301301158.33838.jhb@freebsd.org> <5109543B.4020304@mu.org>

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On 30.01.2013 18:11, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> On 1/30/13 11:58 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:07:22 pm Andre Oppermann wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, unfortunately I do object.  This option, combined with the inflated
>>> CWND at the end of a burst, effectively removes much, if not all, of the
>>> congestion control mechanisms originally put in place to allow multiple
>>> [TCP] streams co-exist on the same pipe.  Not having any decay or timeout
>>> makes it even worse by doing this burst after an arbitrary amount of time
>>> when network conditions and the congestion situation have certainly changed.
>> You have completely ignored the fact that Linux has had this as a global
>> option for years and the Internet has not melted.  A socket option is far more
>> fine-grained than their tunable (and requires code changes, not something a
>> random sysadmin can just toggle as "tuning").
>
> I agree with John here.
>
> While Andre's objection makes sense, since the majority of Linux/Unix hosts now have this as a
> global option I can't think of why you would force FreeBSD to be a final holdout.

Unless OpenBSD, NetBSD, Solaris/Ilumos also support this it is hardly a
majority of Linux/Unix hosts.  And this isn't something a "sysadmin" should
tune at all.

-- 
Andre




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