Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 22:15:14 +0200 From: Daniel Lang <langd-freebsd-hackers@leo.org> To: Les Biffle <les@ns3.safety.net> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB serial support on FreeBSD 3.5? Message-ID: <20030702201514.GA12742@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <200307021934.h62JY2Sb001715@ns3.safety.net> References: <20030701.163708.91972248.imp@bsdimp.com> <200307021934.h62JY2Sb001715@ns3.safety.net>
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--oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Les Biffle wrote on Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 12:34:02PM -0700: > > Oh, My dongle is on -current. >=20 > Is that 3-Current? I'm ready to cvsup to it, if it feels solid to you. > We've a production product that has been rock-solid on 3.5-stable, and > I don't want to join the ranks of the flaky product providers just to > get USB serial support. [..] You're not joking? 3.5 was last release of the RELENG_3 branch. While it was released "-current" was already FreeBSD 4.x. That was June 2000. Right now, the RELENG_4 branch is already about to expire. It will be around for a while, but not that long any more. So if people talk about "-current" (and I'm sure this=20 includes Warner), they mean FreeBSD 5.x, or more precisely 5.1-CURRENT. Btw, if you think you join the ranks of a "flaky" product provider, if you follow development of common sense, I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve. The RELENG_3 branch has some serious deficiencies and it is=20 no longer recommended for any production use (correct me if I'm wrong). Of course, it may require some effort to adapt your firewall code to a recent version of FreeBSD (which already include more than one useful and working firewall implementations). It seems to me, there is not much chance to avoid porting your code to a recent -stable and/or -current, if you want to keep up to date with developments (like USB), and probably also to remain competitive. Just my 0.02 EUR, Daniel --=20 IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Work is for people, who don't surf - =20 Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 18532 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/ --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIXgAYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIXcTCCF20CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC FUAwggbMMIIFtKADAgECAgIVezANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCBpjELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxETAP BgNVBAcTCE11ZW5jaGVuMSkwJwYDVQQKEyBUZWNobmlzY2hlIFVuaXZlcnNpdGFldCBNdWVu Y2hlbjEiMCAGA1UECxMZRmFrdWx0YWV0IGZ1ZXIgSW5mb3JtYXRpazEYMBYGA1UEAxMPUkJH LUJlbnV0emVyLUNBMRswGQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFgxjYUBpbi50dW0uZGUwHhcNMDMwNTIwMTIz MTQyWhcNMDQwNTIxMDAwMDAwWjCBqzELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxETAPBgNVBAcTCE11ZW5jaGVu MSkwJwYDVQQKEyBUZWNobmlzY2hlIFVuaXZlcnNpdGFldCBNdWVuY2hlbjEiMCAGA1UECxMZ RmFrdWx0YWV0IGZ1ZXIgSW5mb3JtYXRpazEUMBIGA1UEAxMLRGFuaWVsIExhbmcxJDAiBgkq hkiG9w0BCQEWFWRhbmllbC5sYW5nQGluLnR1bS5kZTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAw 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