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Date:      Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:14:59 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 6 is coming too fast
Message-ID:  <20050425061459.GA33247@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <426C6B1D.3040704@elischer.org>
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On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 08:59:25PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> >Measuring disk device performance (i.e. running a benchmark against
> >the bare device) and filesystem performance (writing to a filesystem
> >on the device) are very different things.
> 
> I wish people would stop trying to deny that we have serious work in front 
> of us to get the VFS and disk IO figures back to where they were before.
> 
> there ARE slowdowns and I have seen it both with tests on teh basic 
> hardware and throug the filesystems.  I don't know why this surproses 
> people because we have still a lot of work to do in teh interrupt latency 
> field for example, and I doubt that even PHK would say that there is no 
> work left to do in geom.
> Where we are now is closing in on "feature complete". Now we need to 
> profile and optimise.

OK, but note that I didn't deny anything, I only questioned whether
the OP was observing a real problem (he didn't mention disk I/O, or in
fact any specific claim) or whether it was a coloured perception based
on the (incorrect) assumption that gcc compilation speed was measuring
a performance loss in FreeBSD.

Kris

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