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Date:      Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:09:07 +0000
From:      Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: old ports/packages
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On 03/06/2016 07:26, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 02/06/2016 21:08, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
>> It's not fair to compare RedHat to FreeBSD. Companies pay good money to
>> maintain the support for the systems they are using. They don't pay
>> FreeBSD a penny. I think the real issue preventing a wider adoption at
>> companies is not that there is no LTS but that there is no commercial
>> entity that would maintain its own LTS version of FreeBSD base and
>> packages and make it available to companies with paid support options.
>> There are only companies who can provide general support for FreeBSD as
>> a service.
> Have you heard about what Xinuos are doing with FreeBSD?
>
> http://www.xinuos.com/menu-products/openserver-10
>
> Xinuos' whole ethos is in providing long term commercial support, and
> their new platform is built on FreeBSD.
>
> 	Cheers,
>
> 	Matthew

Well, that certainly looks very good and I am glad such companies exist, 
but it's not exactly what I was referring to. Do they actually maintain 
their own package repository? They mention Xinuos Application Collection 
for paid service but nowhere on the site I could find what is actually 
included in that set. And consider that the packages RedHat maintains 
are publicly available for anyone to download (as source, but still). 
CentOS is actually using them to create free binary-compatible RedHat 
replacements.

I don't have anything against their business model and Linux environment 
is quite different to FreeBSD, not only because of the license. I am 
just noting that's hard to compare RedHat to FreeBSD companies and to me 
Xinuos doesn't look like RedHat like-for-like in the BSD world (yet).

Grzegorz



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