Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:12:57 +0100 From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> To: Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org> Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of RAIDFrame Message-ID: <3180.1073776377@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:30:44 MST." <40007D14.6090205@freebsd.org>
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In message <40007D14.6090205@freebsd.org>, Scott Long writes: >All, > >I started RAIDframe three years ago with the hope of bringing a proven >and extensible RAID stack to FreeBSD. Unfortunately, while it was made >to work pretty well on 4.x, it has never been viable on 5.x; it never >survived the introduction of GEOM and removal of the old disk layer. >[...] >I have a Work-In-Progress for converting and integrating it into GEOM >on my home Perforce server. It hasn't been touched in several months >and I really don't see myself being able to finish alone it in the near >future. Since it's been hanging over my head for so long, I'm very, >very close to just removing it and moving on. I can't help thinking about how small the central group of developers in FreeBSD is, and considering that you also carry the armoured release-engineer hat, I am fully able to understand why you have not been able to pull RF along in addition to all the other stuff. As much as I would hate to see RF and Vinum disappar from our source tree, maybe what we need to do is to kick them both into "training-camp" in p4 while you and Greg look the other way. In the p4 tree, we can easier add new talent to our developer force and I am pretty sure that some sort of merry band of developers would form around both RF and vinum there. I am not convinced that they may be able to pull off the task, but the fact that somebody at least tries should give us better chances than having RF stuck in your TODO queue, and vinum stuck in Gregs, while everybody else waits more or less paitiently. If they manage to make it work in p4, pulling it back into CVS is a small matter of repo work (AFAIK). Because we might as well be honest and face it: Neither you nor Greg has much chance of finding the significant amount of time that you need. I know this can be seen as you and Greg throwing in the towel, but I urge you to try to see it like saw my Junior Kernel Hacker list: Throwing a good meaty bone to pick which I myself couldn't eat anyway. I'd say lets kick them both into perforce and let whoever wants their hands have a go at them. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
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