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Date:      Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:04:57 -0700 (MST)
From:      "Ned Wolpert" <wolpert@codeheadsystems.com>
To:        <stijn@win.tue.nl>
Cc:        <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>, <q@uni.de>, <toni@stderror.at>, <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: 5.0-STABLE ???
Message-ID:  <1377.192.168.1.50.1043244297.squirrel@www.codeheadsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030122082908.GB3772@pcwin002.win.tue.nl>
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> -- Thus, Stijn Hoop had said:
>
> So this means that HEAD is still kept in a stable state, or at least
> stable API-wise, so that 5.1 can be branched from it if needed? What
> changes are 'planned' for 5.1? Any overview available? Of course it's
> not going to be comprehensive, but I am just wondering.

(Slightly off your topic, but this has started to get confusing, so
I think we need a better explanation for following stable... )

5.0 isn't stable, its released.  Until there is a RELENG_5, stable is
RELENG_4, right? Least from the announcement, it was commented that those
needing stability may wish to stay with 4.x branch until 5 is deemed
stable.  (which is only done when there is a RELENG_5 branch)

With that said, for people moving to 5.0, if they want some form of
stability, will need to follow RELENG_5_0 for the time being.  Following
the HEAD really can't be 'stable', least as far as 'general public' is
concerned.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the best way to
go (For general public wishing to stay 'stable' with 5) is to keep
switching cvsup file's tag from RELENG_5_0 to RELENG_5_1 as releases occur
until 5 is considered stable.  Does this sound correct?

Also, from my viewpoint (which may differ from reality... ;-) The HEAD may
be kept in a stable state API wise for the time being... but it can still
break. (It is, after all, -current) So, at the next release, _if_ it is
considered stable, then we'd likely see that they'll first branch RELENG_5
from the HEAD, then RELENG_5_1 from RELENG_5.  Only because the next release
(5.2) will also be branched from RELENG_5.  (Course, they could branch
RELENG_5 now from the head, mid-release if they wanted, though I doubt it.)



Virtually,
Ned Wolpert <wolpert@codeheadsystems.com>

"An idea is something you have; an ideology is something that has you."
--Morris Berman



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