Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 00:48:29 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> To: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> Cc: Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>, Sean Fagan <sef@ixsystems.com>, lev@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <20160418214829.GD6614@zxy.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <571533B8.6090109@freebsd.org> References: <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <57152CE5.5050500@FreeBSD.org> <9D4B9C8B-41D7-42BC-B436-D23EFFF60261@ixsystems.com> <20160418191425.GW1554@FreeBSD.org> <571533B8.6090109@freebsd.org>
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On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:21:28PM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > > On 04/18/16 12:14, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:01:46PM -0700, Sean Fagan wrote: > >> On Apr 18, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > >>> I understand, that maybe it is too late, but ARE YOU KIDDING?! 755 > >>> packages?! WHY?! What are reasons and goals to split base in such > >>> enormous number of packages? > >> Just a guess, having done the same thing myself: it means that updates can be > >> more targeted. > >> > > This is exactly the reason, which has been answered numerous times. > > > > Glen > > > > That's a good reason -- and a very nice outcome of having base system > packages -- but I worry that it may be going too far. The most granular > updates would be if every file were its own package, which is obviously Allowing to have one file in multiple packages may be solution: base-11.0.txz have /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail base-11.0-p1.txz depends on base-11.0.txz and contains just single /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail -- security update. This packages must be installed together and presents /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail in both must not be error. > crazy, and so there is some middle ground. Needing to grab a whole new > base.txz is probably too much (60 MB), but splitting that into even 6 or > 7 pieces moves the updates to replacements with typical size (a few MB) > that are no larger than typical package updates for ports. > -Nathan
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