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Date:      Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:46:46 -0300
From:      "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" <unixmania@gmail.com>
To:        Alexander Motin <mav@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, src-committers@freebsd.org, Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r195534 - in head: etc/mtree include lib/libcam  sbin/camcontrol share/man/man4 sys/cam sys/cam/ata sys/cam/scsi sys/conf  sys/dev/advansys sys/dev/ahci sys/dev/aic7xxx sys/dev/amd sys/de...
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Alexander Motin<mav@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Scott Long<scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In message <200907100818.n6A8I8p1011853@svn.freebsd.org>, Scott Long
>>>> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> =A0ATA drives are accessed via 'ada' device nodes.
>>>>
>>>> It there a particular good reason why we insist on making this
>>>> silly mistake every five years ?
>>>>
>>>> I am pretty sure you were around when Justin won friends by renaming
>>>> the SCSI disk devices ?
>>>
>>> 1. I clearly stated that the name is experimental and that a change in
>>> the future is possible.
>>
>> Well, from a user's perspective, if CD/DVD drives are to be seen as
>> 'cdX', then it would make sense that hard disks were seen as daX, as
>> already advertised by cam(4).
>
> cdX implemented by cd(4) driver in both cases uses the same SCSI command
> set. In ATA case, SCSI commands are just wrapped within ATAPI PACKET
> command. For disks, situation is completely different, as ATA disks have
> completely different command and feature set. So da(4) is a driver for SC=
SI
> command set devices and ada(4) is a driver for ATA command set devices.

I know, but that is the driver's perspective, not the user's perspective.


--=20
My preferred quotation of Robert Louis Stevenson is "You cannot
make an omelette without breaking eggs". Not because I like the
omelettes, but because I like the sound of eggs being broken.



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