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Date:      Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:53:51 +0100
From:      Andrew Turner <andrew@fubar.geek.nz>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>, Michal Meloun <mmel@freebsd.org>, Svatopluk Kraus <skra@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r301453 - in head/sys: arm/arm arm64/arm64 dev/fdt dev/gpio dev/iicbus dev/ofw dev/pci dev/vnic kern mips/mips sys
Message-ID:  <20160722215351.5fbb2a49@zapp>
In-Reply-To: <2764416.DJT1n7EiEe@ralph.baldwin.cx>
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:19:32 -0700
John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:51:20 PM Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> > 
> > On 07/21/16 14:35, John Baldwin wrote:  
> > > On Thursday, July 21, 2016 01:37:42 PM Andrew Turner wrote:  
> > >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:28:53 +0200
> > >> Michal Meloun <mmel@FreeBSD.org> wrote:  
> > >>> Dne 19.07.2016 v 17:06 Nathan Whitehorn napsal(a):  
> > >>>> 2. It partially duplicates the functionality of
> > >>>> OFW_BUS_MAP_INTR(), but is both problematically more general
> > >>>> and less flexible (it has requirements on timing of PIC
> > >>>> attachment vs. driver resource allocation)  
> > >>> OFW_BUS_MAP_INTR()  can parse only OFW  based data and expect
> > >>> that parsed data are magicaly stored within the call.
> > >>> The new method, bus_map_intr(),  can parse data from multiple
> > >>> sources (OFW, UEFI / ACPI, synthetic[gpio device + pin
> > >>> number]).  It also returns parsed data back to caller.
> > >>> And no, it  doesn't  add any additional timing requirements .  
> > >> I've been looking at ACPI on arm64. So far I have not found the
> > >> need for this with ACPI as we don't need to send the data to the
> > >> interrupt controller driver to be parsed in the way OFW/FDT
> > >> needs to.  
> > > ACPI though has a gross hack where we call BUS_CONFIG_INTR on the
> > > IRQ in bus_alloc_resource().  
> > 
> > I hadn't realized that. It looks like you could do essentially the
> > same thing we do on PowerPC to clean this up by explicitly mapping
> > the ACPI interrupt domains to different PICs with varying default
> > interrupt properties.
> >   
> > > What I had advocated in the discussions
> > > leading up to this was to have some sort of opaque structure
> > > containing a set of properties (the sort of thing
> > > bus_map_resource and make_dev_s use) that was passed up at
> > > bus_setup_intr() time.  
> >   
> > > I think it should now
> > > be passed up at bus_alloc_resource() time instead, but it would
> > > allow bus drivers to "decorate" a SYS_RES_IRQ request as it goes
> > > up the device tree with properties that the interrupt controller
> > > can then associate with the IRQ cookie it allocates in its own
> > > code.  
> > 
> > 
> > We used to do this on PPC and MIPS, and the current code still
> > supports it, but it turned out not to be useful in the end for
> > IRQs. The hierarchy for IRQs rarely (read: almost never) follows
> > the bus hierarchy and often is enumerated in a different order. I
> > have hardware, for example, where the children of a single parent
> > bus are all wired to different interrupt controllers and sometimes
> > to a mixture of interrupt controllers. Those controllers are
> > cascaded in ways that cross the newbus tree laterally and, on some
> > of them, the parent device from the bus topology has interrupts
> > handled by its own (bus) children. Trying to make the newbus
> > parents do something sensible with all of this would be crazy and,
> > in the case where parents depend on resources provided by their own
> > children, impossible.
> > 
> > This is all to say that, since you want the interrupts to be
> > decorated along a path that usually has nothing to do with the
> > newbus hierarchy, it doesn't add much to add extra features to
> > resource allocation. ofw_bus_map_intr() is a newbus method to
> > support this kind of thing but, on all supported platforms, it is
> > implemented only in nexus and no cases have appeared where anyone
> > ever wanted anything at the intermediate layers.  
> 
> Mmm.  Another idea that has been bandied about is to create a separate
> "plane" in new-bus for an interrupt hierarchy and allow devices to
> have "interrupt" parents that are not the same as the "bus" parent.
> (Additional planes for power and clocks might also make sense.)  The
> idea is borrowed from IOKit on Darwin which has multiple planes.  The
> "bus" plane is always fully populated, but the other planes (Darwin
> has one for power for example) can be sparse.  ACPI has methods that
> effectively describe the power plane on x86.

For some planes the structure would look more like a directed
graph. Devices can have multiple clock parents, e.g. one for the
register interface, and another to drive the external bus.

I can also imagine the case where a device could have multiple
interrupt parents, an MMC/SD controller comes to mind where it may have
an interrupt on a GPIO line to detect the card being inserted, with
another for command completion, etc. In this case one parent would be
the standard interrupt controller, with the other being the GPIO
controller.

Andrew



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