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Date:      Thu, 25 Dec 2014 09:53:49 -0500
From:      Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org>
To:        Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-standards@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Does posix say anything about the sign in NaNs ?
Message-ID:  <003E7D36-61E0-4572-A98C-24351F6ADF5A@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20141225235228.H927@besplex.bde.org>
References:  <549B1115.8000909@FreeBSD.org> <20141225235228.H927@besplex.bde.org>

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Hello;

> Il giorno 25/dic/2014, alle ore 09:00, Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au> ha scritto:
> 
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> 
>> I got the attached patch from OpenBSD.
>> 
>> It says:
>> ____
>> Show the sign for NaN as per POSIX; from Elliott Hughes.
>> ok martynas@, millert@, doug@
>> ____
>> 
>> I can't find a reference in POSIX documentation to support it though.
> 
> The behaviour is implementation-defined.  From n869.txt for printf:
> 
> X                A  double  argument  representing  an  infinity   is
> X                converted in one of the styles [-]inf or [-]infinity
> X                 --   which  style  is  implementation-defined.    A
> X                double  argument  representing a NaN is converted in
> X                one of the styles [-]nan or [-]nan(n-char-sequence)
> X                 --  which style, and the  meaning  of  any  n-char-
> X                sequence,    is   implementation-defined.    The   F
> X                conversion specifier produces INF, INFINITY, or  NAN
> X                instead of inf, infinity, or nan, respectively.220)
> 
> "style" is not clearly defined.  The format for input in strtod()
> is formally defined as [-]something without using the term "style",
> but the specication for actually handling the minus sign is even less
> complete (see below).
> 
> The library intentionally suppresses the sign for NaNs on output.
> This is consistent with it ignororing the sign for NaNs on input.
> 


Interesting and pretty much the reason why I wanted to discuss the change.

I can see the sign information is important for infinity but indeed it makes
very little sense (if any) for NaN. OTOH, we are doing an extra assignment
to hide something the standard permits. If we are ignoring the sign of NaNs
on input there should be no such sign information in the first place and
ignoring the value is unnecessary.

While I am tempted to follow the change, I think it is pretty much innocuous
as no reasonably correct program should depend on the sign of NaN.

Pedro.



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