Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 17:03:14 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "<dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>, "<dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: git: 5c4d1c85847d - main - Replace license with just SPDX BSD-2-Clause Message-ID: <CANCZdfpGEx-wPY9wpNMCeRuPwtcyyRJZ1rgD012V4cYSx=Qvhw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20250807223124.2tsDIUvh@steffen%sdaoden.eu> References: <202508072215.577MFjpx011932@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20250807223124.2tsDIUvh@steffen%sdaoden.eu>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Thanks! Warner On Thu, Aug 7, 2025, 4:31 PM Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu> wrote: > Hello Simon, all, > > Simon J. Gerraty wrote in > <202508072215.577MFjpx011932@gitrepo.freebsd.org>: > ... > |URL: > https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=5c4d1c85847d84bd86e6b12408f\ > |9b5f846094f39 > | > |commit 5c4d1c85847d84bd86e6b12408f9b5f846094f39 > |Author: Simon J. Gerraty <sjg@FreeBSD.org> > |AuthorDate: 2025-08-07 22:15:37 +0000 > |Commit: Simon J. Gerraty <sjg@FreeBSD.org> > |CommitDate: 2025-08-07 22:15:37 +0000 > | > | Replace license with just SPDX BSD-2-Clause > > That is very interesting! And .. are you really sure this is > right with BSD etc licenses which explicitly require that the > license text is included? > So i looked and found [1] which says > > SPDX IDs are intending to express information about > licenses. Copyright notices ‐ statements about who owns the > copyright in a file or project ‐ are outside the scope of SPDX > short-form IDs. > Therefore, you should not remove or modify existing copyright > notices in files when adding an SPDX ID. > > However i am sure you do not do something like this "just like > that", and would be very interested -- it would be nice to be able > to vaporise the file header -- i always have that pitfall moment > when i look into Plan9 / 9front source code, which then simply > starts off (and very often with "#include <u.h>", just like that). > > [1] https://spdx.dev/learn/handling-license-info/ > > --steffen > | > |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, > |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one > |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off > |(By Robert Gernhardt) > | > |During summer's humble, here's David Leonard's grumble > | > |The black bear, The black bear, > |blithely holds his own holds himself at leisure > |beating it, up and down tossing over his ups and downs with pleasure > | > |Farewell, dear collar bear > [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="auto">Thanks!<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Warner </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 7, 2025, 4:31 PM Steffen Nurpmeso <<a href="mailto:steffen@sdaoden.eu">steffen@sdaoden.eu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello Simon, all,<br> <br> Simon J. Gerraty wrote in<br> <<a href="mailto:202508072215.577MFjpx011932@gitrepo.freebsd.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">202508072215.577MFjpx011932@gitrepo.freebsd.org</a>>:<br> ...<br> |URL: <a href="https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=5c4d1c85847d84bd86e6b12408f%5C" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=5c4d1c85847d84bd86e6b12408f\</a><br>; |9b5f846094f39<br> |<br> |commit 5c4d1c85847d84bd86e6b12408f9b5f846094f39<br> |Author: Simon J. Gerraty <sjg@FreeBSD.org><br> |AuthorDate: 2025-08-07 22:15:37 +0000<br> |Commit: Simon J. Gerraty <sjg@FreeBSD.org><br> |CommitDate: 2025-08-07 22:15:37 +0000<br> |<br> | Replace license with just SPDX BSD-2-Clause<br> <br> That is very interesting! And .. are you really sure this is<br> right with BSD etc licenses which explicitly require that the<br> license text is included?<br> So i looked and found [1] which says<br> <br> SPDX IDs are intending to express information about<br> licenses. Copyright notices ‐ statements about who owns the<br> copyright in a file or project ‐ are outside the scope of SPDX<br> short-form IDs.<br> Therefore, you should not remove or modify existing copyright<br> notices in files when adding an SPDX ID.<br> <br> However i am sure you do not do something like this "just like<br> that", and would be very interested -- it would be nice to be able<br> to vaporise the file header -- i always have that pitfall moment<br> when i look into Plan9 / 9front source code, which then simply<br> starts off (and very often with "#include <u.h>", just like that).<br> <br> [1] <a href="https://spdx.dev/learn/handling-license-info/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://spdx.dev/learn/handling-license-info/</a><br>; <br> --steffen<br> |<br> |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,<br> |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one<br> |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off<br> |(By Robert Gernhardt)<br> |<br> |During summer's humble, here's David Leonard's grumble<br> |<br> |The black bear, The black bear,<br> |blithely holds his own holds himself at leisure<br> |beating it, up and down tossing over his ups and downs with pleasure<br> |<br> |Farewell, dear collar bear<br> </blockquote></div>
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