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Date:      Wed, 21 May 1997 09:45:43 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Cc:        asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@polstra.com, rob@ideal.net.au
Subject:   Re: IPDIVERT broken? 
Message-ID:  <2567.864233143@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 22 May 1997 02:16:07 %2B1000." <199705211616.CAA31817@godzilla.zeta.org.au> 

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> Developers should help make the changes.  For ipdivert and nonstandard
> network protocols they were given several weeks notice but apparently
> didn't do anything until after the changes were committed.

If you said: "Developers should *try* to help make the changes" then
I'd have no argument at all, and it's certainly not unrealistic to
hope that general team-spiritedness would be invoked if person A came
along and said "I've got this big, hairy change to make and it's
really a good thing in the long term but I kinda need some help, guys.
Please?"

However, I'm not talking about the nice-to-have scenario, I'm talking
about formulating an effective policy which allows us to handle the
failure cases like this and I still think that *ultimate*
responsibility should fall upon the changer, not a more nebulous
conglomeration of hoped-for favors and group effort.  That way lies
madness and a broken source tree during the times when said developers
are on 6 week treks across the Himalayas or are simply too busy with
new projects of their own to go clean up after someone else in code
they downed tools on months previously.

					Jordan



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