Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 21:55:05 -0500 From: Alexander Kabaev <kabaev@gmail.com> To: Attilio Rao <attilio@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, David Xu <davidxu@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: process-sharable pthread synchronous objects Message-ID: <20100105215505.451ff1da@kan.dnsalias.net> In-Reply-To: <3bbf2fe11001051838t38e872d3jae6c4f8be9e57ebc@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B43E358.609@freebsd.org> <3bbf2fe11001051838t38e872d3jae6c4f8be9e57ebc@mail.gmail.com>
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--Sig_/7K7e8nFJiUYLswev06_pk=H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 03:38:35 +0100 Attilio Rao <attilio@freebsd.org> wrote: > 2010/1/6 David Xu <davidxu@freebsd.org>: > > I want to go further to make some pthread synchronous objects > > process-sharable, do you guy think it is worthy ? > > except mutex and condition variable, others like rwlock and spinlock > > are relative simple. >=20 > I'm afraid people is going to produce very messy system resulting in > process shared mutexes where IPC or threads may be used and causing > more harms than good. > Besides that, semaphore can "emulate" a fair amount of locking > features in a non-trivial fashion, forcing developers to think a lot > about it, thus reducing the risk of error. >=20 > Said that, I think that introducing shared semaphore has been a good > idea, but I would not go further than that. >=20 > Thanks, > Attilio >=20 >=20 I respectfully disagree and think having pthread-agnotsic locks processes can use to synchronize access to, say, shared memory segment content is a good think to have. People are perfectly capable of screwing up any powerful tool they are given, but that is not the reason to be held back. Solaris had lwp_{mutex|cond} for ages and lived. --=20 Alexander Kabaev --Sig_/7K7e8nFJiUYLswev06_pk=H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFLQ/uNQ6z1jMm+XZYRAnUTAJ9r8caQhQisn5ewuye36IyXJ8ZZTQCeNiUb 8V/1daIso4xZGe5FlgTrRO4= =Gj5d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/7K7e8nFJiUYLswev06_pk=H--
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