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Date:      Sat, 4 Mar 2000 10:39:01 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Mark Newton <newton@internode.com.au>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG, "Koster, K.J." <K.J.Koster@kpn.com>, "'FreeBSD Hackers mailing list'" <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>, Wes Peters <wes@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Great American Gas Out
Message-ID:  <20000304103901.A24172@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000304101212.A384@internode.com.au>
References:  <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452201313909@l04.research.kpn.com> <38BFEEA8.1A465CFC@softweyr.com> <20000304101212.A384@internode.com.au>

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On Saturday,  4 March 2000 at 10:12:13 +1030, Mark Newton wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 09:56:08AM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
>
>> "Koster, K.J." wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, those Americans. :-)
>>> Let's see: $1 per gallon in the US. $1.2 per litre in the Netherlands,
>>> times 4.5 (or thereabouts) is $5.4 per gallon in the Netherlands.
>>> Everyone in the Netherlands drives cars; everyone thinks gas is expensive.
>>> This means that the gas prices in the US can go up 440% and people will
>>> still drive cars and buy gas (and complain about gas prices, of course).
>>
>> First, this off-topic for -hackers, so I've directed replies to -chat
>> if you want to continue.
>
> Sage advice :-)
>
>> Second, I know people that commute distances that would cross your
>> country.  I suspect the average American uses a lot more gas than the
>> average Nederlander.
>
> Bah.  In Western Australia there's a sheep station called "Little Texas"
> which just happens to have a land area larger than the state of Texas;
> I live in Adelaide, so I have to go 600 km East or 3000 km West or 3000 km
> North to find another population centre with more than 50,000 people;
> the nearest interstate Capital city is 980 km away.

Melbourne's 750 km.

> Our cities are also a hell of a lot more widely laid-out than yours:
> Adelaide, with a pop.  of 1.1 million, has the same surface area as
> New York City.

I think you should take a look at Salt Lake City (where Wes lives)
before making that sort of claim.  SLC is a lot wider than Adelaide.

> So let's accept that distances in the US are pissant little commuter
> hops, shall we? :-)

Depends on the part of the USA. 

Greg
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