Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 03:57:47 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> To: vermaden <vermaden@interia.pl>, Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org> Cc: "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" <freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org" <freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, pete@nomadlogic.org, bapt@freebsd.org, bane@pmf.uns.ac.rs Subject: Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature Message-ID: <a9e07520-eddd-4e55-abab-cf7ecd426c24@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <fozdqxvxzylwxyvzfrmt@fobq> References: <gblzvammhkzqxmwduyap@vpbk> <na7zou5skn2rcvyoigjgnnlzaomqsx23aj7dq3epq5ds65cu4y@ukgxp5zsj7j7> <fozdqxvxzylwxyvzfrmt@fobq>
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On 30/07/2025 20:30, vermaden wrote: > Hi. > > I have only two proposals that seem sensible. > > (1) > > Keep pkg(8) for third party packages with /etc/pkg and /usr/local/etc/pkg and /var/db/pkg dirs for configuration. > > Use separate pkgbase(8) with /etc/pkgbase and /usr/local/etc/pkgbase and /var/db/pkgbase dirs for managing PKGBASE packages. By pkgbase(8) I have the same pkg(8) project in mind - just renamed as pkgbase(8) and with */pkgbase dirs instead of */pkg. > > (2) > > My other idea is to 'mark' all FreeBSD Base System packages as 'vital' - so they are never removed automatically - but if someone wants to remove them with additional force option - then I assume he knows what he is doing. > > I would prefer (1) over (2) if you ask me. I would also like to separate it. Use one command to update (upgrade) 3rd party packages and another to update (upgrade) base packages. It is our workflow for the last 25+ years thus running one command to update both is really unexpected and unwanted. Kind regards Miroslav Lachman > As for additional groups like base-minimal or base-standard - I do not have anything against such additional features or layers - its not related to the main topic IMHO - that with 'classic' FreeBSD the *pkg delete -af* removes only third party packages and with PKGBASE FreeBSD it removes almost all system rendering it unbootable/unusable. > > Hope that helps. > > Regards, > vermadenhome | help
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