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Date:      08 Jun 1999 23:41:11 -0500
From:      Joel Ray Holveck <joelh@gnu.org>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, Brian Feldman <green@unixhelp.org>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ?
Message-ID:  <86d7z6j89k.fsf@detlev.UUCP>
In-Reply-To: Matthew Dillon's message of "Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:26:28 -0700 (PDT)"
References:  <199906052344.TAA19843@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> 	<Pine.BSF.4.10.9906052010540.53878-100000@janus.syracuse.net> <199906060057.UAA20103@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199906060626.XAA17701@apollo.backplane.com>

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>> This wouldn't help the poor sod whose connection gets shot down every
>> eight days while he's not there and doesn't know what hit him.
> If the poor sod hasn't touched his xterm for 8 days, he's either dead
> or he doesn't care if it goes away.

Again, Matt, with all due respect, please do not post your operational
habits as universals.  Somebody who keeps a session to a server around
so they can see syslog messages if there's a problem may have an idle
connection for weeks.

In case you still doubt the existance of such a person, I give you a
counterexample.  Having just spoken with nemo, I am quite certain that
he is alive and well, and from my dealings with him have no doubt he
would become somewhat miffed if I were to kill off several of his
sessions.

Cheers,
joelh

detlev$ finger nemo@[deleted]
[[deleted]]
Login: nemo                             Name: Joel N. Weber II
Directory: /gb/nemo                     Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash
On since Thu Jun 03 23:49 (EDT) on tty1    2 days 3 hours idle
On since Wed May 19 14:43 (EDT) on tty2    27 minutes 34 seconds idle
On since Sun May 30 22:24 (EDT) on tty3    2 days 1 hour idle
On since Sun May 30 22:27 (EDT) on tty4    2 days 3 hours idle
On since Mon May 31 00:15 (EDT) on tty5    2 days 1 hour idle
On since Mon May 31 16:07 (EDT) on tty6    2 hours 40 minutes idle
On since Fri Jun 04 20:58 (EDT) on tty7    3 days 1 hour idle
On since Fri Jun 04 22:28 (EDT) on tty13   2 days 3 hours idle
On since Sat Jun 05 17:05 (EDT) on tty14   2 days 1 hour idle
On since Sat Jun 05 15:25 (EDT) on tty15   2 days 2 hours idle
On since Sat Jun 05 21:59 (EDT) on tty16   2 days 3 hours idle
On since Sat Jun 05 22:11 (EDT) on tty17   3 days 2 hours idle
On since Sat Jun 05 00:26 (EDT) on tty18   2 days 12 hours idle
On since Sun Jun 06 19:15 (EDT) on tty19   2 days 1 hour idle
On since Wed May 19 15:57 (EDT) on ttyp0 from xanthine:0.0
   10 days 1 hour idle
On since Wed May 19 15:58 (EDT) on ttyp1 from xanthine:0.0
   10 days 1 hour idle
On since Wed May 19 16:11 (EDT) on ttyp2 from xanthine:0.0
   12 days 23 hours idle
On since Wed May 19 16:45 (EDT) on ttyp3 from xanthine:0.0
   15 days 21 hours idle
On since Wed May 19 17:29 (EDT) on ttyp4 from xanthine:0.0
   9 days 23 hours idle
On since Wed May 19 17:43 (EDT) on ttyp5 from xanthine:0.0
   10 days 2 hours idle
On since Wed May 19 17:44 (EDT) on ttyp6 from xanthine:0.0
   9 days 23 hours idle
On since Wed May 19 18:09 (EDT) on ttyp7 from xanthine:0.0
   15 days 21 hours idle
On since Thu May 20 20:20 (EDT) on ttyp8 from xanthine:0.0
   19 days idle
On since Wed May 19 18:35 (EDT) on ttyp9 from xanthine:0.0
   16 days 22 hours idle
On since Wed May 19 21:54 (EDT) on ttypa from xanthine:0.0
   20 days 2 hours idle
On since Thu May 20 16:06 (EDT) on ttypb from xanthine:0.0
   16 days 2 hours idle
On since Thu May 20 21:05 (EDT) on ttypc from xanthine:0.0
   9 days 10 hours idle
On since Thu May 20 23:51 (EDT) on ttypd from xanthine:0.0
   18 days 20 hours idle
Last login Mon Jun 07 19:22 (EDT) on ttypf from zygorthian-space
New mail received Wed Jun 09 00:29 1999 (EDT)
     Unread since Wed Jun 09 00:00 1999 (EDT)
No Plan.

-- 
Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org
   Fourth law of programming:
   Anything that can go wrong wi
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