Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:24:10 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> To: Mike Edenfield <kutulu@kutulu.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists_nada@tx.rr.com> Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 Message-ID: <20080609032410.GQ48790@elvis.mu.org> In-Reply-To: <48488D1A.9070105@kutulu.org> References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <48472DB6.5030909@samsco.org> <6010676B-91B0-4AF8-ACF8-039A59B29331@netconsonance.com> <200806050248.59229.max@love2party.net> <B9B83C12-7130-490D-A4BE-0469711B24DC@netconsonance.com> <20080605083907.GD1028@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <902E9703E6E50776A17E9F92@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080605220244.GP1028@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <34E9F0D46D7B9F45EDA38F4C@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <48488D1A.9070105@kutulu.org>
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Y'know, I've been sort of skimming this thread, and I think a lot of this time could be better spent by just looking at the PRs and giving the original poster tips and encouragement for providing the information needed by FreeBSD to solve his problems. Really... -Alfred * Mike Edenfield <kutulu@kutulu.org> [080605 18:04] wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > >I think that's an unfair characterization. He stated that he had > >noted numerous bugs in 6.3 (submitted PRs) that he perceived affected > >him personally and so he chose not to update to 6.3. He then asked if > >6.2 couldn't be extended farther. That seems like a reasonable > >question to ask. A simple, professional answer would have settled the > >matter quickly. > > Part of the problem is that a few of us (including myself) *have* looked > for the PRs he referenced and can't find them. There are only three > critical PR's opened on the hardware devices he mentioned that are filed > specifically against version 6.3: one each for bge, gmirror, and 3ware. > Of those, one of them appears to be sporadic, one of them appears to be > specific to a particular obscure BIOS, and one of them involved a > specific dual-card setup on a specific type of motherboard. And none of > those *specifically* say that they cannot be reproduced on 6.2 -- one of > them is actually filed against version 5 through 7. Since we also know > very little about the specific hardware setup of the OP, it's impossible > to determine if these are, in fact, the PRs he's looking at, or if he's > actually looking at other less-critical PRs that may need to be bumped > up to critical, or if they're misfiled, or who knows what. > > In short, the problem reports that the OP is looking at are not > immediately obvious to someone who doesn't already know what they are, > and he's not doing himself any favors by insisting that everyone else > "already knows" about these problems. If he's seen these bug reports, > presumably he knows what their PR #'s are, or at the very least the > description of the bugs, and it would be many many times faster for him > to just say so than continue to insist that other people read his mind. > > --Mike > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- - Alfred Perlstein
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