Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:49:25 +0200 (CEST) From: carlo@vis.ethz.ch (Carlo Dapor) To: phk@critter.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp) Cc: julian@elischer.org (Julian Elischer), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Headsup! KSE Nay-sayers speak up! Message-ID: <20010827184925.DD85B275B6@naboo.ethz.ch> In-Reply-To: <66544.998934042@critter> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Aug 27, 2001 07:40:42 PM
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How about this . . . Although not running a multi-processor machine, are there guinnea-pigs, like me, who run current and do not mind carrying Julians work in our kernel. As I understand there is no set time-line for SMPng integration, is there ? I would not mind running KSE, and that only on a i686 laptop. Let's call for an interest list. +1 me My main interest is getting the Java Native threads port moving forward, beco- ming rock-solid. Ciao, derweil. -- Carlo > > In message <3B89DF04.F6A250F9@elischer.org>, Julian Elischer writes: > > >I am ready to do my megga-commit to add the first stage of KSE-threading support > >to > >the kernel. If there is any argument as to the wisdom of this move, > >then this is the time to speak up! > > I say "No, not yet". > > Not yet, because in practice nobody has been running your patches yet. > > Not yet, because we have seen no quantified performance impact numbers > (yes, I'm trying to arrange to help you produce these but on a P5/133 > things are _S_L_O_W_! > > Not yet, because I seriously doubt if anybody has had any time to review > and reflect on the way you have gone around and done things. > > Not yet, because there are, as I understand it, unresolved issues with KAME. > > Not yet, because you are generalizing from only one platform, get at least > alpha working first. > > So I propose: > > Put up your patches in a highly visible place and advertise them on > -current, -arch and -smp. > > Once at least 5 developers have publically said "I'm running these > patches on my -current machine(s) and it doesn't totally hose me" > and at least 3 of those machines are SMP and one is non-i386 > architecture, then call for "last orders before commit". > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3ia Comment: requires PGP version 2.6 or later mQENAzQOnboAAAEIALnpSTc5y2g21CIX5V9bMqxsixXpQZDyR3hGosGsPC8S0WXP xfJiXAw/Zq3sPZhmiGZWq8/QP/d69tm4ert6rGB5Vuue96beKei4iemBF1ZpTU9G 3/tLsL63GHTLDAf+jqNcp1xM5ORF+qkFqP1ForzED06ba7HPQomzD0uhPbczHr9p vLAsczg1Wm9op06m7VTgK/hEvOJZPdxu0i2mFC2KVmRJr/KLcjs4CyEt6S8cJk8F Q3vDOOvwa+j/AHkvejBYokNYbfA+5D6bbYmNl5GxsKmY/qxamEaPWy7lZ87v8J0E CwnfzxiFPlguHCAux3u388EWqGWyAqOeROtKqL0ABRG0JkNhcmxvIERhcG9yIDxk YXBvckBuZXNzaWUuaW5mLmV0aHouY2g+iQEVAwUQNA6dugKjnkTrSqi9AQH3kAf/ T7dFJl6YQbUKSwTxNX/rERk2W010j2fH1bkbgOOfEfvQ6LiIRJYmJQCgeehP8kEU V66vSPboGsjl+8wU5CdlmoPsf7xw94Dh+uI48/CKLFAu+Rq2lonQOuzSvEDGg1P0 pU4UyCdj5i+y89jS+wBNA/yG6wsEGWMVltWqB2UKSg1n3YbA8JqaO2x9JLtIzfoB J/jhl5Jl4kX8OJzX1XVlJTxYdu9PTwaTZP68EG6NNfEyCn5Fp6iSDtUrLms1pI5i 3U282bIhBgVXr19hVS2olqTUHGdgcRqFjcnrARIBKoB9stuKj1+ORqlDiLwJfvg5 6JNSM4HFutk/iftKBqYXhQ== =XYxp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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