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Date:      Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:33:03 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
To:        imp@village.org, hackers@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Frustration with SCSI system
Message-ID:  <200009220233.VAA16041@aurora.sol.net>
In-Reply-To: <200009220229.VAA06232@earth.execpc.com> from "jgreco@execpc.com" at Sep 21, 2000 09:29:39 PM

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> From: imp@village.org
> Subject: Re: Frustration with SCSI system 
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> In message <200009201958.MAA45703@ns2.uncanny.net> Edward Elhauge writes:
> : to autorecover on bad sectors, but every system that I've had to recover
> : seems to be in a state where the bad sectors aren't remapping. I've tried
> 
> I've often wanted to write a bad block remapper.  While SCSI is
> supposed to do this automatically, I've found that a scan on any
> adaptec controller will remap these blocks (forces the remapping).
> About 10% of the time that's all a drive with this problem needs to
> survive indefinitely.  The other 90% of the time the disk is about to
> go tits up in a heap big time way and warrantee replacement is
> recommended.  About 75% of the time a rescan + immmediate dump will
> save me.
> 
> I've had 2 disks that seem to have lost their bad block mappings that
> the adaptec verify function has saved me from sending them back (they
> were out of warantee anyway).  However, on the other 20ish disks I've
> tried this on have died within days of doing this.
> 
> Even if we had bad144 support, the drive will need so many bad blocks
> remapped in a short period of time that it isn't worth while.
> 
> Finally, I've found that climate controlled and dust free environments
> help a lot.  RAID hardware/software is definitely the right way to
> deal when you go to the next level.
> 
> Warner
> 
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... Joe

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