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Date:      Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:01:54 +0100
From:      Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>
To:        "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Writing firewall rules
Message-ID:  <20010102090153.A11476@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>
In-Reply-To: <200101020206.UAA82560@mailbox.mcs.net>; from tforrest@mcs.net on Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 09:10:00PM -0500
References:  <20010102.1480000@bartequi.ottodomain.org> <200101020206.UAA82560@mailbox.mcs.net>

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Hello,

Sorry for recycling this message, I already deleted the original...
 
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 09:10:00PM -0500, Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM wrote:
> >> Also, why would the OS (4.0) report that a user has mail when, in
> >> real life, they start pine and find they have no mail?  For example,
> >> as root, I get my daily output logs in my mail box.  But when I
> >> delete them, log out and log back in I'm told I have mail, start pine
> >> and there is no mail.

This is pine "feature" that I have occasionally encountered as well (and is
not FreeBSD-related at all.) Pine creates a pseudo-message in your inbox
(and all other mail folders) that contains folder data it (pine) uses.
(also, the uw-imap daemon, coming from the same house, uses them) Pine will
not show this "message" to you but if you use another mailer, it will show
up as "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE....blahblah" (no I am not shouting it is
all in caps.) Now, to your problem. Normally the shell will not detect this
message and therefore will not tell you that you have mail when this is the
only thing in your inbox. (At least bash does get this right most of the
time) But, sometimes it notices this message and reports (not entirely
incorrectly) that you have mail. The "fix" I have found to this is that I
start up the old mail(1) program. It will show this message. Don't do
anything, just type mail and then, quit (type q) and, misteriously this
always seems to have solved this for me. (I know this because users
complained of the same thing you just have) Or, use another mailer that
does not require such tricks. I use Mutt:-)
 
-- 
Regards:

Szilveszter ADAM
Szeged University
Szeged Hungary


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