Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:22:17 -0700 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Chris Coleman" <chrisc@vmunix.com>, "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com> Cc: <core@daemonnews.org>, <newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: [dn-core] Re: Daemonnews Magazine Message-ID: <006501c0c7cf$ead41860$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104172235290.58715-100000@vnode.vmunix.com>
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>-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chris Coleman >I am encouraged that people are anxious to receive the magazines and you >won't be disappointed. They are very high quality and only improving. > >However, I am a bit discouraged by the lack of subscribers. To be >perfectly honest, we have 800 subscribers, nearly half of them are >International. I can't see us keeping the print magazine alive if more >people don't take an interest in it. $24.95 isn't that big a price to pay >to have a BSD magazine. Daemon News has a total of four part time >employees who handle the shipping and office duties, so we aren't getting >rich off this. Everyone else is volunteer. The magazine is expensive to >print and we have had to eat a lot of the cost. > Hi Chris, Be patient, patient, patient! I write a regular column for a computer magazine that's local to my hometown and they have been in operation for ten years now and are still mainly being distributed for free. I think your doing pretty good if you have 800 subscribers after only a few issues being printed, I think it's going to take you 2 years before you really get going in terms of subscriptions, hang in there buddy! >FreeBSD has a purported userbase of 2.5 million and 800 subscribers is >what percentage of that? Add in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Darwin and BSD/OS. > Don't forget that the majority of those users obtain copies of FreeBSD for merely the cost of their ISP connection via FTP over the Internet. How many are regular subscribers to Walnut Creek? That's the userbase stats you should care about - since those are folks that value FreeBSD enough to part with some money for it. >Its time to start advocating. > I'd suggest looking again at the Daemonnews homepage. Believe it or not, when I first saw in the mailing list that you guys were doing a print magazine I went to the website, looking to sign up, and search as I might I couldn't see a scrap of HTML that referred to it. I checked again, once or twice, over the following months and still didn't see anything so I figured "Oh, another bogus rumor" and forgot about it. I was very surprised to get a promo copy of the magazine a couple weeks ago for a magazine I didn't think existed! :-) (I'm even more surprised and a little disappointed that it's issue 3 since I'd like to get a copy of issue 2) Anyway, even today looking at http://www.daemonnews.org there is no menu link to the hardcopy of the magazine at the top menu. There is a sidebar - but you have to click on it to get to the mag, and there's no text in the sidebar saying that it's a magazine. I'd suggest that right next to the "Get BSD" red menu item, you have a "Daemon News Magazine" red menu item. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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