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Date:      Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:10:18 +0200
From:      "Chris Knipe" <savage@savage.za.org>
To:        "Jim Laurenson" <j.laurenson@epicmail.ca>, "Craig Miller" <craig@millerfam.net>, "freebsd-security" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: wierdness in my security report
Message-ID:  <002f01c22e86$6507caa0$fe01a8c0@genocide>
References:  <LJEFLBLMLGPNAJOOKOHLGEJLCDAA.j.laurenson@epicmail.ca>

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If it is Cisco, it's more than likely HSRP (Host Standby Router Protocol).

It happens where two different routers are configured in a redundancy scenario with a "virtual" IP.  What will happen, is that x.x.x.1 is a virtual IP, while x.x.x.2 and x.x.x.3 is assigned to the Ethernet ports.

Router 1 which is x.x.x.2 will have the virtual IP of x.x.x.1 on .2's MAC address, however, when the router goes down, Router 2 reclaims the virtual IP .1, on the MAC address of .3  

Therefore, the MAC address changes, and to my understanding that is what causes the message to be displayed.  I can however, be wrong and the change or "switching" of one IP to another MAC address may have nothing to do with the cause of the log message.

--
me


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Laurenson 
  To: Craig Miller ; freebsd-security 
  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:53 PM
  Subject: RE: wierdness in my security report


  I have found the same logs on one of my older builds (4.3 I think). The offending MAC address was found to be a Cisco router on my ISP's network. I found no solution for it though.

  Jim Laurenson
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Craig Miller
    Sent: July 18, 2002 11:47 AM
    To: freebsd-security
    Subject: wierdness in my security report


    Anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing the following to appear in my security report?

     arp: 12.236.220.1 moved from 00:b0:64:b7:6f:54 to 00:b0:64:b7:6f:a8 on dc0
    > Jul 17 05:47:56 server /kernel: arp: 12.236.220.1 moved from 00:b0:64:b7:6f:54 to 00:b0:64:b7:6f:a8 on dc0
    > arp: 12.236.220.1 moved from 00:b0:64:b7:6f:a8 to 00:b0:64:b7:6f:54 on dc0
    > Jul 17 05:47:57 server /kernel: arp: 12.236.220.1 moved from 00:b0:64:b7:6f:a8 to 00:b0:64:b7:6f:54 on dc0

    I thought those : delimited fields would be MAC addresses, but they don't match the MAC addresses of either of the two cards in my free-bsd box.  I have not checked the MAC addresses of the other network cards on my network.

    Also, where does the "server /kernel" name come from.  "kernel" is not the name I gave my kernel, so I am suspicious.

    Thanks,

    --Craig


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If it is Cisco, it's more than likely HSRP (Host 
Standby Router Protocol).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It happens where two different routers are 
configured in a redundancy scenario with a "virtual" IP.&nbsp; What will happen, 
is that x.x.x.1 is a virtual IP, while x.x.x.2 and x.x.x.3 is assigned to the 
Ethernet ports.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Router 1 which is x.x.x.2 will have the virtual IP 
of x.x.x.1 on .2's MAC address, however, when the router goes down, Router 2 
reclaims the virtual IP .1, on the MAC address of .3&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Therefore, the MAC address changes, and to my 
understanding that is what causes the message to be displayed.&nbsp; I can 
however, be wrong and the change or "switching" of one IP to another MAC address 
may have nothing to do with the cause of the log message.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>me</FONT></DIV>
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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=j.laurenson@epicmail.ca href="mailto:j.laurenson@epicmail.ca">Jim 
  Laurenson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=craig@millerfam.net 
  href="mailto:craig@millerfam.net">Craig Miller</A> ; <A 
  title=freebsd-security@freebsd.org 
  href="mailto:freebsd-security@freebsd.org">freebsd-security</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:53 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: wierdness in my security 
  report</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=055135217-18072002>I 
  have found the same logs on one of my older builds (4.3 I think). The 
  offending MAC address was found to be a Cisco router on my ISP's network. I 
  found no solution for it though.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Jim Laurenson</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG">owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG</A> 
    [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Craig 
    Miller<BR><B>Sent:</B> July 18, 2002 11:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
    freebsd-security<BR><B>Subject:</B> wierdness in my security 
    report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyone have any ideas as to what might be 
    causing the following to appear in my security report?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;arp: 12.236.220.1 moved from 00:b0:64:b7:6f:54 to 
    00:b0:64:b7:6f:a8 on dc0<BR>&gt; Jul 17 05:47:56 server /kernel: arp: 
    12.236.220.1 moved from 00:b0:64:b7:6f:54 to 00:b0:64:b7:6f:a8 on 
    dc0<BR>&gt; arp: 12.236.220.1 moved from 00:b0:64:b7:6f:a8 to 
    00:b0:64:b7:6f:54 on dc0<BR>&gt; Jul 17 05:47:57 server /kernel: arp: 
    12.236.220.1 moved from 00:b0:64:b7:6f:a8 to 00:b0:64:b7:6f:54 on 
    dc0<BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I thought those : delimited fields would be MAC 
    addresses, but they don't match the MAC addresses of either of the two cards 
    in my free-bsd box.&nbsp; I have not checked the MAC addresses of the other 
    network cards on my network.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also, where does the "server /kernel" name come 
    from.&nbsp; "kernel" is not the name I gave my kernel, so I am 
    suspicious.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Craig</FONT></DIV>
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