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Date:      Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:25:08 +1100
From:      Benno Rice <benno@FreeBSD.org>
To:        freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: the abi
Message-ID:  <20010103112508.D27798@rafe.jeamland.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010102121741.A33602@electricjellyfish.net>; from rooneg@electricjellyfish.net on Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 12:17:42PM -0500
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[Apologies for sending this to you twice Garrett, I hit 'r' instead of 'g' =/]

On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 12:17:42PM -0500, Garrett Rooney wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 10:47:25AM -0600, Dwayne Grant McConnell wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, David O'Brien wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 08:21:27PM -0500, David Edelsohn wrote:
> > > The purpose of the PowerPC effort [at least mine] is not to complete with
> > > Darwin and run on Mac's, but to provide a platform for PowerPC embedded
> > > development.  Those that push JKH and others hard for a PowerPC port want
> > > it for use in the embedded market.  The G4 would just be the reference
> > > and development box -- but not the main use and target.
> > >
> > > I am not sure anyone will take the PowerPC port and polish it for desktop
> > > or server use.
> > 
> > So the only FreeBSD PowerPC port in progress right now is for embedded?
> > Or are there multiple efforts ongoing? If a desktop/server port is in
> > progress or occurs in the future would it also use the same ABI or a
> > different one?
> 
> I believe that the current port in progress is intended for use on
> embedded systems, but that the reference platform is the powermac G4.  
> So well it will likely be used for embedded work, it will most likely 
> be possible to make use of it in a desktop/server capacity.  I imagine
> that more drivers would have to be written to make it really useful, but
> once the initial port is completed that should be considerably easier.
> 
> Of course I'm not one of the people doing the actual work, so all of
> this is just what I've gleaned from lurking on the mailing lists.

I'm currently working on getting the kernel building.  It currently compiles
but doesn't link due to the fact that I haven't written all the necessary
machine dependant functions yet.

I'm developing it on an iMac (G3) but I'm hoping to get a hold of some
embedded reference units (any people with contacts in Motorola or IBM, I'd
love to talk to you =)) and I'd also like to have it running on the Apple
desktop machines, and yes that means I'd like to target the dual-G4 boxes
as well.

Basically I'd like the FreeBSD/powerpc port to support pretty much anything
with a powerpc in it, within reason.

-- 
Benno Rice
benno@FreeBSD.org


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