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Date:      Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:18:18 -0700
From:      John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@efn.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
Cc:        Andrew Reilly <A.Reilly@lake.com.au>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Limit of bus hierarchies (was Re: PCI modems do not work???)
Message-ID:  <19990906191818.50407@hydrogen.fircrest.net>
In-Reply-To: <199909060541.XAA03034@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 11:41:29PM -0600
References:  <9909061532290G.69570@gurney.reilly.home> <199909060517.XAA02790@harmony.village.org> <199909060541.XAA03034@harmony.village.org>

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Warner Losh scribbled this message on Sep 5:
> In message <9909061532290G.69570@gurney.reilly.home> Andrew Reilly writes:
> : So there's going to be manufacturer-specific terminal/serial port drivers
> : to talk to the serial ports on USB-attached laptop docking stations, like
> : the Annex ethernet terminal server things?  I guess in the Windows world
> : they must provide 16550-virtualisation software, or else everyone's copy of
> : Telix or TeraTerm won't work.  Or the parallel ports vs parallel-port
> : scanners.  Or maybe these docking stations just won't work at all...
> 
> No.  The Windows world presents a standard SERIAL DRIVER interface, at
> least that's the theory that is preached.  I see no reason why a USB
> serial port wouldn't do the same.  USB defines a serial port
> interface, IIRC, which is the same across manufacturers (in theory)
> which would be handled by a single USB driver in our USB stack.

so, Cyclades (cy) presents an interface similar to sio but ISN'T the sio
drive...  we just need to write a driver for the USB serial devices
that present the same interface as the sio to get a compatible device
driver...  sio isn't designed to handle a smart device over usb.. it's
designed to interface w/ the family of 8250 IC chips and nothing more...

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