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Date:      Wed, 14 May 2003 19:25:30 +0200
From:      Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@bellavista.cz>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@apple.com>
Subject:   Re: Supposed lack of code from Apple
Message-ID:  <20030514172530.GO1036@freepuppy.bellavista.cz>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20030514111438.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200305131922.33556.wes@softweyr.com> <XFMail.20030514111438.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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# jhb@FreeBSD.org / 2003-05-14 11:14:38 -0400:
> 
> On 14-May-2003 Wes Peters wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 May 2003 01:57, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> >>
> >> jkh@freebsd-> grep DOOFUS /usr/include/sys/errno.h
> >> #define EDOOFUS         88              /* Programming error */
> > 
> > I think your tie is knotted a bit too snugly, it's cutting off the flow 
> > of blood into your brain.  
> > 
> > If Apple wants to import FreeBSD code (it has been a very one-way 
> > street, hasn't it?)
> 
> Just a comment here.  I think this last statement is bull.  Apple
> has made lots of bugfixes to our code available in Darwin.  All it
> takes is for someone to extract their lazy rear from a chair and
> import those fixes.  We don't import our fixes into Darwin, Darwin
> developers do that.  In the same way, it is rather absurd to
> require Darwin developers to backport their fixes to FreeBSD.  That
> is the job of FreeBSD developers.  As an example of how this can
> work, see the recent fixes to smbfs that bp@ imported from Darwin.

    As far as I know Covalent's and IBM's developers *do* work on
    mainstream Apache in they day work.

    But don't read this as a support to Wes' position. I'm undecided.

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