Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 07:19:58 -0500 From: Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth? Message-ID: <5698c0c6-e8f0-805a-2289-3eeb7911a5a3@columbus.rr.com>
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On 12/03/17 20:47, Dennis Glatting wrote: > On Sun, 2017-12-03 at 20:07 +0000, Steven Hartland wrote: >> People really seem to miss the point that there are only finite >> resources >> and as an open source project that depends on people volunteering >> their >> time to add new features and maintain tools. > > Missing the point cuts both ways. > > If you have a a couple swaths of servers managed to certain tool chains > then the conversion process is an unnecessary and non-trivial resource > consumption. I have moved servers to Ubuntu and (groan) other Linux > flavors and customized the processes because: > > 1) I am tired of port breakage. I am past tired of being told to read > UPDATEs when UPDATEs often has limited information, including install > conflicts. > > 2) "Error 70" on installs with no indication of where the error was > incurred and thus requiring me to make with debug flags and then dig > deep is past annoying. > > 3) Nvidia does not support CUDA under FreeBSD and this is a problem > for TensorFlow and other applications. If I went the OpenCL route > (e.g., AMD GPUs) then my application base would be significantly > limited. I don't consider Intel a serious solution. > > Further: > > 1) Under FreeBSD I do not do binaries, rather I do source and I do > source for reasons. Under Linux, source is troublesome. > > 2) I had no hope of getting Intel Phi processors working under FreeBSD > but I do have them working under Linux, including the older Phis under > CentOS. I recognize this is an Intel problem which is one of the > reasons I do not consider Intel a serious solution, not to mention the > requirements and cost of an Intel compiler and Intel libraries. > > 3) FreeBSD offers me ZFS and FreeNAS as an alternative, particularly > for HyperV/VMware SANS. Under Linux, ZFS has historically been > troublesome. > > > These are nothing more than a few data points. Please do not bother > with the "then become a maintainer" response. It is not that I do not > appreciate the efforts of others but that statement is a BS response, > you know it, and I'll simply delete your message. > > > Exactly +1 for this
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