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Date:      Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:35:17 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3ware and RAID0 vs RAID 1 
Message-ID:  <200008112235.PAA00819@mass.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:07:00 EDT." <4.3.2.7.0.20000811092428.00da32d0@marble.sentex.ca> 

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> >Ok, thanks.  It *definitely* shouldn't "just hang" at all.
> 
> OK, some more quick testing... I was wrong about the hanging, I just did 
> not wait long enough.

That's a relief.  I take it that you didn't look at the disks?

> running bonnie with 100M (the machine has 128M of RAM, both complete in 
> about 30seconds.  Actually, 33 for the 3ware vs 30.  Sounds reasonable. 
> (mounts are sync btw)
> 
>                -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- 
> --Random--
>                -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- 
> --Seeks---
> Machine    MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec %CPU
> IDE       100 15511 84.5 16221 30.4 17630 33.8 13662  99.9 159587  99.9 
> 17239.3 99.7
> RAID1     100 18210 97.4 18148 32.5 19653 36.0 13644 100.0 157095 100.0 
> 17101.5 99.6
> 
> 
> But, when I do something over my available RAM, the differences become very 
> apparent.
>            -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random--
>            -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks---
>         MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec %CPU
> IDE   500 17721 93.8 18197 33.4  8871 21.2 12800 97.5 22265 21.2 153.1  1.9
> RAID1 500 14711 81.0 16023 32.0   600  1.4  5805 44.0  6710  6.0 102.2  1.3
> 
> Doing a 500MB write on a regular drive on this machine takes about 3min, 
> 30seconds. On the RAID1, it takes 19 min ??

Can you be more specific about "a 500M write"?  Are you referring to the 
bonnie run?  I wouldn't expect it to be 5x as slow.  Note that the 
rewrite case suggests that your test is still too small; I typically use 
1 or 10GB on a 128MB machine.

> Do you see similar results with your controllers and disks in RAID1 ?

Bonnie results on these cards tend to suggest that they're fairly slow
writers.  It's 3ware also observed this, but commented that with two
writers they found more bandwidth.  I suspect that the write overhead may
be fairly high, leading to a lot of dead time while writing (the read
overhead is also an issue I guess).  I haven't done a lot of timing tests,
as I'm typically more concerned with functionality and reliability.



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