Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:39:49 -0400 From: Stephan Uphoff <ups@tree.com> To: Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org> Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Max Laier <max@love2party.net>, net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duplicate read/write locks in net/pfil.c and netinet/ip_fw2.c Message-ID: <1124577589.1360.73337.camel@palm> In-Reply-To: <20050818073124.A87225@xorpc.icir.org> References: <20050816170519.A74422@xorpc.icir.org> <200508170435.34688.max@love2party.net> <20050817170248.A70991@xorpc.icir.org> <200508180332.34895.max@love2party.net> <20050818005739.A83776@xorpc.icir.org> <1124374713.1360.64660.camel@palm> <20050818073124.A87225@xorpc.icir.org>
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On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 10:31, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 10:18:33AM -0400, Stephan Uphoff wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 03:57, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > ... > > > In fact i don't understand why you consider spinning and sleeping > > > on a mutex two different things. > > > > The major difference between sleeping (cv_wait,msleep,..) and blocking > > on a mutex is priority inheritance. > > If you need to be able to use (non-spin) mutexes while holding a > > [R|W]LOCK and use a [R|W]LOCK while holding a (non-spin) mutex then you > > need to implement priority inheritance for [R|W]LOCKs. > > is that required (in FreeBSD, i mean) for algorithmic > correctness or just for performance ? Hi Luigi, It is theoretically required since otherwise low priority user threads (programs) could block system (interrupt) threads indefinitely long. Example: Extreme low priority (nice?) thread A holds read/write lock RW as reader Thread B is holding mutex M tries to acquire read/write lock RW as writer and sleeps. Thread C with better priority than A runs and enters a busy loop (in user space). Interrupt thread preempts C and tries to acquire Mutex M. Interrupt priority is propagated to B BUT NOT TO A. Interrupt thread blocks on Mutex M. Thread C resumes and will block thread I forever if it can keep a better priority than thread A. In practice you would probably just see bad latency every now and then and may never encounter a hang. Stephan
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