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Date:      Fri, 26 Oct 2018 05:30:06 +0200
From:      Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>
Cc:        src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r339563 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/joy sys/modules sys/modules/joy sys/sys tools/kerneldoc/subsys
Message-ID:  <zhv1-1j29-wny@FreeBSD.org>
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Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> writes:

> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:42 AM Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> Warner Losh <imp@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>>
>> > Author: imp
>> > Date: Mon Oct 22 02:34:00 2018
>> > New Revision: 339563
>> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/339563
>> >
>> > Log:
>> >   Remove joy(4) driver.
>> >
>> >   This driver was marked as gone in 12. We're at 13 now. Remove it.
>> >   Data from nycbug's dmesg cache shows only one potential user,
>> >   suggesting it never was used much.
>> >
>> >   RelNotes: yes
>> >   Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D17629
>>
>> Breaking userland API but not bothering with an exp-run or bumping
>> __FreeBSD_version.
>> Is the following the pointy hat you were looking for?
>>
>>
>> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/graphics-freeglut-fails-to-build-sys-joystick-h-not-found.68002/
>
>
> Your tone is not acceptable. Please try again, only this time with the
> required level of professionalism. I'm not an idiot, and you will treat me
> with respect.

Apologies for the snide remark. I've expected someone with ports/ commit bit
to be a bit more careful.

> This driver was flagged for removal in 12 ages ago and the port failed to
> update to take that deprecation into account.

Not sure what "ages ago" refers to when not even 1 year passed since r328523.
Neither joy(4) manpage mentioned deprecation nor __attribute__((deprecated))
was used. Maintainers of consumers aren't necessarily joy(4) users.

Was joy(4) deprecation announced on the public mailing lists? For some reason,
I can't easily find it in the archives.

> You can use the bump to 1300000 as the version to fix it. I didn't bump the
> revision because it wasn't needed.

poudriere won't force rebuild everything if __FreeBSD_version doesn't change.
Expect silence from pkg-fallout@ until the next bump.

http://www.ipv6proxy.net/go.php?u=http://beefy12.nyi.freebsd.org/data/latest-per-pkg/sdl/1.2.15_12,2/head-amd64-default.log
http://www.ipv6proxy.net/go.php?u=http://beefy12.nyi.freebsd.org/data/latest-per-pkg/plib/1.8.5_7/head-amd64-default.log

vs.

http://beefy8.nyi.freebsd.org/data/latest-per-pkg/sdl/1.2.15_12,2/head-armv6-default.log
http://beefy8.nyi.freebsd.org/data/latest-per-pkg/plib/1.8.5_7/head-armv6-default.log

> I posted a patch to the port that makes it compile for me to that thread.
> If there's confirmation that it works, i'll work with x11@freebsd.org to
> get it pushed in. Or just push it in myself since I'm on that list and I'm
> a ports committer.

https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=sys/joystick.h could've been used
to guess a few consumers before pkg-fallout@ complains.



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