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Date:      Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:10:45 -0500
From:      Mark Mayo <mark@vmunix.com>
To:        Yarema <yds@dppl.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Sendmail going commercial, and ?
Message-ID:  <19980319231045.26875@vmunix.com>
In-Reply-To: <019101bd5380$00233ab0$1f40e6cd@ichiban.ingress.com>; from Yarema on Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 04:43:05PM -0500
References:  <019101bd5380$00233ab0$1f40e6cd@ichiban.ingress.com>

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On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 04:43:05PM -0500, Yarema wrote:
> >So where do you see us stand:
> >
> >a.  No problem at all, business as usual
> >b.  We only sustain existing sendmail, and defer replacement until the code
> >    athrophies enough (via missing new functionality, or just age)
> >c.  We want to replace sendmail asap, but have a replacement in mind.
> >d.  We need to start a new MTA project.
> >e.  Something else which Simon did not think about.
> 
> 
> The way I see it is send mail will continue to be free. the commercial
> sendmail will be akin to Stronghold (a commercial, secure apache
> w/enhancements) as opposed to free sendmail which is akin to the free
> version of apache.

Agreed. I think this is a fairly close analogy. (i.e. apache/stronghold)

> I'm kinda fond of exim as a replacement for sendmail cuz of its
> compatibility with sendmail /etc/aliases and command line switches. These
> two considerations I feel are most important for an MTA to qualify as a
> drop-in replacement for sendmail. However Exim is encumbered under GPL.
> Which blows it out of the running as a base component of any *BSD system.

VMailer looks very promosing in this regard. It't not GPL (I may
be wrong on this), and it's designed to be a drop in replacement for
sendmail. Other good points include performance - right now it's faster
than qmail, which is already significantly faster than sendmail for
certain tasks. Also, I noticed that the author's test platform is FreeBSD,
which certainly bodes well for it being shipped with the base FreeBSD
system.  

I have no idea how far along VMailer has come, and if it can loose the
"alpha" name tag, but I think it will certainly be a MTA with a great
future on FreeBSD.

My $.02  :-)

-Mark

> Qmail is a great MTA, but in no way does it qualify as a drop in replacement
> for sendmail. One, it does not deliver to /var/mail, only to $HOME. That's a
> good thing for security, but lousy if you have lots of email users without a
> home directory. qmail by default does not use .forward, /etc/aliases and I
> don't know the extent of it's sendmail command line compatibility. On the
> other hand qmail does have a good license:
> ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/softwarelaw.html :) Or at least I like the
> authors interpretation of the law.
> 
> Rather than replacing sendmail I would prefer to see /etc/rc* files modified
> in such a way as to make it easier to replace it with another MTA in a clean
> fashion. i.e. without having to hack the /etc/rc* files too much.
> 
> --
> Yarema
> 
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