Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 21:28:45 -0700 From: Walter Parker <walterp@gmail.com> To: Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Docker Message-ID: <CAMPTd_DnL2Wt_b0SDvUrciHTmTA7NSxDJh%2Be8LhO-RgJZ6AuKg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <92f6a9df-fd1e-9411-6093-fc8a145add17@tundraware.com> References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <CA%2B1FSijc%2B-OLNsyFNdR=jP3VzMi4zUE92i5iv9Pfg6AryDy_KQ@mail.gmail.com> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <CA%2B1FSihVrJ8cZ4ZU6mMr0sKJsZ98V4fh2vpDLugw7MGj-%2BEBPg@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSijL50mQ-HveBA4HZeNkSoaORv=aty-15nNLzn9amzY_nw@mail.gmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <CA%2B1FSigV_pPwVW%2BDd8WZYGcNQVt7%2BYOcsnJFoRhS6jL5A636pg@mail.gmail.com> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <CA%2B1FSihVPCQ6tp8u=aqnLyyOPpCMrnhYGcC8bCUgRbFHTdY5sA@mail.gmail.com> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <20230412155252.5e38ea4728bd52dc798852fc@sohara.org> <1d0a7ed1-9330-49df-9b66-9ee4387de511@app.fastmail.com> <8f3a86806377c2c92039eaf2765f5b85862de178.camel@riseup.net> <CA%2B1FSij0N-CRhMRXVUK81BWPTn0vDVcbQSF2Q11Zz%2BgJdL_Ddw@mail.gmail.com> <858859542.4652196.1681696294734@mail.yahoo.com> <92f6a9df-fd1e-9411-6093-fc8a145add17@tundraware.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] > > Go try to find a mainstream cloud vendor with a standard BSD image > available. The only one I ever found > was Digital Ocean and they're relatively small. > Does AWS count as a major cloud vendor? If you look at the OS catalog for EC2 images, they have all versions of 12 and 13. Last time I looked , they have all of the Betas and RCs for 13.2, which is more than they have for Ubuntu. Also, the number two cloud vendor submitted kernel patches to the FreeBSD project so that it would work better on Microsoft’s hypervisor. See https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/linux/freebsd-intro-on-azure To see what Azure supports w.r.t. FreeBSD. Also, Colin has been doing great with Amazon to get support for the new Amazon cloud hardware into FreeBSD. Most other cloud vendors are small (maybe medium) as compared to AWS and Azure. Walter -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis [-- Attachment #2 --] <div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" dir="auto" style="width:396px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-color:rgb(0,0,0) rgb(0,0,0) rgb(0,0,0) rgb(204,204,204)"><br>Go try to find a mainstream cloud vendor with a standard BSD image available. The only one I ever found<br>was Digital Ocean and they're relatively small.<br></blockquote><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)">Does AWS count as a major cloud vendor? If you look at the OS catalog for EC2 images, they have all versions of 12 and 13. Last time I looked , they have all of the Betas and RCs for 13.2, which is more than they have for Ubuntu. Also, the number two cloud vendor submitted kernel patches to the FreeBSD project so that it would work better on Microsoft’s hypervisor. </div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)">See </span><div style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/linux/freebsd-intro-on-azure">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/linux/freebsd-intro-on-azure</a></div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)">To see what Azure supports w.r.t. FreeBSD.</div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)">Also, <span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.3); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Colin has been doing great with Amazon to get support for the new Amazon cloud hardware into</span><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.3); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"> FreeBSD.</span></div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.3); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></span></div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)">Most other cloud vendors are small (maybe medium) as compared to AWS and Azure.</div><div dir="auto" style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.3); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"></div><div dir="auto">Walter</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div></div></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136)">The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis</span></div>help
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