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Date:      Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:56:23 -0400
From:      Craig Rodrigues <crodrigu@bbn.com>
To:        Tom Samplonius <tom@sdf.com>
Cc:        freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SONET over PPP/IP for FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <20020729115623.A8688@bbn.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.10207271127550.656-100000@misery.sdf.com>; from tom@sdf.com on Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 11:32:48AM -0700
References:  <20020727144202.A13067@bbn.com> <Pine.BSF.4.05.10207271127550.656-100000@misery.sdf.com>

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On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 11:32:48AM -0700, Tom Samplonius wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Has anyone done any work or experiments to implement
> > PPP/IP over SONET ( http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2615.txt )?
> 
>   I don't know if there are any SONET interfaces available for use.
> 
> > I am interested in doing some experiments with SONET over
> > regular Ethernet equipment instead of ATM.
> 
>   That seems strange.  Can you really encapsulate SONET in ethernet
> frames?  Or, do you somehow want to utilize an specially programmed
> ethernet NIC to generate SONET framing?
> 
>   I know the 10GbE standard as an option supports ethernet encapsulated
> inside a simplified SONET transport.


Hi,

I think I did not understand all the acronyms I was looking at when
I wrote my e-mail. :)

My basic goal is that I would like to experiment with SONET on a PC computer
(on a small scale, for learning purposes only) without having to use ATM equipment
(if I can avoid it).
I am interested in whatever existing SONET software simulators
for FreeBSD or FreeBSD device drivers are out there which could help me
do this.

I suggested PPP/IP over SONET, but based on some further reading, it looks
like I would need special hardware to do this.  For example,
PMC-Sierra has a special chipset which does packet over SONET (POS):

http://www.pmc-sierra.com/pressRoom/pr/1998092100.html
http://www.pmc-sierra.com/products/details/pm5351/index.html

This chipset is implemented in equipment from various router vendors, such as Cisco:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/12000/prodlit/gspos_an.htm

I couldn't find any information about NIC cards with POS capabilities
which could plug directly into a PC.

As you mentioned, there is some interest in encapsulating Ethernet
inside a SONET transport.  There is a tutorial of Ethernet over SONET here:

http://www.commsdesign.com/design_corner/OEG20020418S0005  (Part 1)
http://www.commsdesign.com/design_corner/OEG20020425S0003   (Part 2)


So there is a lot of stuff going on, but is any work going on in
this area which would work under FreeBSD? ;)
I just want to use a FreeBSD PC to learn about SONET, without getting
lots of expensive equipment.  If there is a software simulator of SONET
that works on FreeBSD, I would be interested in that.

Thanks.
-- 
Craig Rodrigues        Distributed Systems and Logistics, Office 6/304
crodrigu@bbn.com       BBN Technologies, a Verizon company
(617) 873-4725         Cambridge, MA

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