Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 00:59:47 -0600 From: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, =?UTF-8?B?eiBXxIVzaWtvd3NraQ==?= <lukasz@wasikowski.net>, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com>, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net> Subject: Re: flowtable usable or not Message-ID: <4F55B5E3.1080207@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmomuSTAgtfYUcAepDkCUr5x%2BbVgmdyOhKjBPSSQ5GcxTWw@mail.gmail.com> References: <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <CACqU3MWx3pMMDncvOita-OAgfe=NPKtwKE2WeB_mdcYwozY81Q@mail.gmail.com> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_O%2BCt6yhRL=B9oxgkL8EgLxZdo7-KFO2C8HqiN1=Kx_bw@mail.gmail.com> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_OfeB7Kb=pgjGq0uffLJdJROGoCaGz=25Jito-kweAxRQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_MZM6Gn_zPzxz5tLuzPOW=kK9YxqmrLTyitvGfAPhrkbw@mail.gmail.com> <4F510FBD.50008@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_M7mYV5r_AZEcAxi2wWuQ8u0aXTG-H1YaCLXLUytQd9wA@mail.gmail.com> <4F5117A6.2030003@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_Mcf=2S_niBf=S6foS7W7pdgKVcOp9n26nMzzc33igp8w@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmo=3k59ss77AC8VstVfwHruvoH=6tKek7Z1nsL9YWoOXqA@mail.gmail.com> <4F5285CF.3010001@FreeBSD.org> <CAJ-VmomuSTAgtfYUcAepDkCUr5x%2BbVgmdyOhKjBPSSQ5GcxTWw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 3/4/2012 2:04 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > 2012/3/3 Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>: >> On 03/02/2012 16:05, Adrian Chadd wrote: >>> Try breaking that cycle. >> >> ... one of the things I've been asking for years. :) >> >> Julian's right though, I think PC-BSD will help, but I still think that >> committers should run -current. I've asked privately for our committers >> to go back to -current and then have some dedicated development time >> where we work together to fix the problems that *we* find in order to >> make the project more desktop-friendly overall. I was (figuratively) >> laughed out of the room. > > There's a magic intersection between "need to run current" and "need > to keep stuff unbroken enough to get work done." Personally I have a -current partition (slice) that I keep up to date, and an 8-stable'ish slice that I purposely keep in a known-good state, and only update if -current has been running good for a while (which it has more often than not in the last several years). I have both slices set up to share data such as /home, my cvs and svn trees, etc. This has worked really well for me (and others, I originally got the idea and some of my configuration from David Wolfskill) for over a decade. hth, Doug
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