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Date:      Wed, 05 May 1999 15:59:15 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: PCWeek article by Anne Chen -- Comments 
Message-ID:  <4.2.0.37.19990505155301.04422590@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <37794.925940364@zippy.cdrom.com>
References:  <Your message of "Wed, 05 May 1999 10:54:52 MDT." <4.2.0.37.19990505102722.00c748f0@localhost>

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At 02:39 PM 5/5/99 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > Doing a better job would take a great deal of time and effort. If I could
> > arrange, somehow, to generate enough of an income stream from it, I'd do
> > it. 
>
>Sorry, that's a cop-out attitude and it's like saying "I'd like to
>learn to climb, but I lack the funds to ascend Everest."  

Easily said by someone who's PAID to work on FreeBSD. 

>You don't
>have to go for the #1 difficulty challenge right away and, in fact,
>it's almost always foolhardy to try and start hammering in the big end
>of the wedge.  Pick something small and start from there, as many fine
>efforts have been started.

Any effective effort is going to need more funding and more effort
than any one person can put in without breaking the bank. 

>   You think the folks who created
>freebsdzine, daemonnews, the freebsd diary, freebsdrocks and many
>other fine (and effective) advocacy sites got paid money for it?  You
>think it takes a personal fortune in the bank to write an effective
>magazine article?  

Despite all of those efforts, FreeBSD's share is lagging. Clearly,
something else is needed.

 >A lot of people *complain* about how bad advocacy
>is but very few actual do anything concrete about it, or even worse
>(Brett) they somehow come to the conclusion that bashing the few folks
>who *are* doing some kind of advocacy (and I'm not flying to Japan for
>3 days at the end of this month for my *health*, to cite one example)
>is somehow a productive and winning strategy.

Uh, it's your *job*, Jordan. You're paid to do it. I'd like to be
flown to Japan, too, but unfortunately no benefactor has appeared.

>   That's like saying
>"we're grossly outnumbered, the enemy is attacking in human waves and
>we're down to 2 guys and a sergeant.  Quick, somebody shoot the
>sergeant!"

We're down to 2 guys because the sergeant shot the rest. Shooting
down advocacy, Jordan -- which is what you've been doing -- is
the equivalent of massive losses from "friendly" fire.

--Brett



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