Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 00:10:30 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Importing djb's public domain daemontools? Message-ID: <E4B18E7A-74A1-4388-AD79-05DD3E667DAE@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <4F1502CD.90409@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAETOPp2Wcww1_fPonru0c6XoX%2BAV_HWoGZKiEMvmY50a5%2ByxRQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F14E291.5090803@FreeBSD.org> <CAETOPp1z0TJecz8kjDvf7trEOS5eogrcqEtDveUYzN=J-SvDNQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F1502CD.90409@FreeBSD.org>
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On Jan 16, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 01/16/2012 19:41, Jos Backus wrote: >> On Jan 16, 2012 6:53 PM, "Doug Barton" <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>=20 >>> On 01/16/2012 12:53, Jos Backus wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Thoughts? >>>=20 >>> This is already available in ports. >>=20 >> I realize that. >=20 > Good, then we're done. :) Not necessarily... >> If FreeBSD had a solid solution out of the box, all this pidfile = hackery in >> the base system wouldn't be necessary. >=20 > We don't do religious wars here. We especially don't do trollbait from > djb acolytes. The "pidfile hackery" that we currently have works just > fine in the vast majority of cases. The fact that it doesn't meet some > people's ideas of architectural purity is totally beside the point. This isn't a religious war. This is someone coming to us and saying = that it might be a good idea to clean up the mess by importing a tiny = bit of extra code into the base. Seems like how we've always done = things :) >> I always thought FreeBSD was about >> good engineering. Perpetuating the pidfile mess in the base is not a = sign >> of good engineering. >=20 > FreeBSD is about giving people choices. Those who want to use > daemontools can do that. >=20 > And lest people think that I'm just hating on daemontools, I'm not. I > use it for some things. But converting everything in the base to use = it > is a non-starter, even if we wanted to import it, which I don't see = any > need to do. I'm not convinced it is a non-starter. I'd fully support Jos if he = wanted to commit the code and had done the leg work to do it. I = wouldn't support just importing the daemontools and leaving it at that. = If that's the plan, then leaving it in ports is the best bet. Let's not dismiss this out of hand. Warner=
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