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Date:      Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:36:32 -0500
From:      Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To:        Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff
Message-ID:  <3C84E600.3030209@pittgoth.com>
References:  <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020304092002.GA2321@submonkey.net> <3C839B52.3020206@pittgoth.com> <20020305101859.GA4224@submonkey.net>

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Ceri wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:05:38AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> 
>>How does "a minimial of one client"  sound to you?
>>
> 
> I'm with Giorgos - "one or more" is better.
> After all, I'm not going to turn up on anyone's doorstep if they
> dare to set up a server and no clients, so we shouldn't make it
> sound as someone is going to ;)


I'm not going to complain, the more I thought about it, the more logical 
it became in my mind, I will throw togeather another patch ;)


> 
> 
>>>><application>nfsiod</application>
>>>>
>>>I've read the manual page, and I'm not really any the wiser here.
>>>nfsiod services async requests according to the manpage - what if i don't 
>>>have
>>>any filesystems mounted async ?
>>>Is this the same thing as biod on Solaris ?
>>>
>>Well would you want them?  and I don't use Solaris, not for NFS anyways, 
>>so I would have no clue what your talking about it you even mentioned 
>>biod.  If you want to reword that to help the Solaris boys please offer 
>>an opinion as I'm at a loss.
>>
> 
> It looks like it is (from the biod manpage on an arcane version of SunOS) :
> 
>        biod starts nservers asynchronous block I/O daemons.  This
>        command is used on a NFS client  to  buffer  cache  handle
>        read-ahead   and   write-behind.
> 
> Whether we want to start saying "foo is the equivalent of bar on QuuxOS" is
> a question that will probably be answered in the negative - it was rather
> frustrating, however, to be referred to the manpage and find nothing more
> there, but that's not really your problem, I suppose; the manpage needs
> fixing too.


Maybe I should just remove the reference to the man page?  Or just leave 
it in hopes that someone will eventually work on the manual page?


> 
>>>>+        information.  The <option>-alldirs</option> flag allows the 
>>>>directories
>>>>+        below the specified filesystem to also be exported.</para>
>>>>
>>>Um, no it doesn't.  Not really.
>>>This reads as though failing to specify -alldirs will allow me to mount
>>>/home, but will not result in /home/setantae being exported.
>>>The -alldirs flag actually allows the directories below the specified
>>>filesystem to be used as the root of a mount point, i.e. using the line
>>>below will allow 10.0.0.[2-4] to mount /home/setantae from the server.
>>>Now try turning that into English :)
>>>
>>I am trying to think of a better example, this one made me think for a 
>>few moments ;)  But the ``vision'' is approching ;)

> 
> OK, but you know what I'm saying, right ?


This is how I read what you say:
"I guess that using the -alldirs option will PERMIT the mounting of 
subdirectories, without requiring a seperate entry for them?  In this 
way, you could export the /home dir, and not be required to specify 
which user home directories be exported..."


> 
> 
>>>I'd rather see -maproot=root here (and everywhere else).
>>>Although that may cause problems interoperating with Plan9, where the 
>>>superuser
>>>appears to be called "glenda", it doesn't make it look as though something
>>>is being "turned off".
>>>
>>I can agree with this, although about the Plan9 interoperation problem, 
>>that SHOULD be documented on their side.  Most *nix versions use the 
>>root user ;)
>>
> 
> Wizard.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ceri
> 
> 

I hope this sounds better...  Enjoy

-- 
Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes
www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front
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