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Date:      Wed, 04 Jul 2001 11:33:33 +0200
From:      sthaug@nethelp.no
To:        julian@elischer.org
Cc:        bjf@samurai.com, net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: PPPoE latency
Message-ID:  <71213.994239213@verdi.nethelp.no>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:56:44 -0700"
References:  <3B41EB3C.EF185F3F@elischer.org>

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> > Here's a ping on my friend's machine (Mac ping, sorry for lack of precision):
> > 
> > Packets out/in/bad/%loss = 64/64/0/0.0
> > Round Trip Time (ms) min/avg/max = 14/24/59
> > 
> > My box should be fine cpu-wise, it's a Celeron/300, and isn't doing
> > anything else. The card PPPoE is running over is an ISA 10BaseT
> > D-Link card using the ed(4) driver, if that makes any difference. I
> > track STABLE with this box, it's currently at:
> > 
> > FreeBSD katana.apt.samurai.com 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #13: Sun
> > Jun 24 01:43:39 EDT 2001
> > 
> > Any thoughts? I can live with this, the connection is rock solid and
> > has been for over a year now, just curious as to why. Apologies if
> > this has come up before, I searched the list archives and the bug
> > list.
> 
> you may be a good test case for us..
> we have heard of this negraph latency for a while but have never had a good
> test case.. if I send you test code can you run it for me?

I believe the latency for the basic netgraph code is a complete non-issue.

I have an ADSL connection where I can control both ends (this is for an 
ISP which is just starting to test ADSL).

- With straight bridging (RBE on the Cisco at the ISP end), I get ping
roundtrip times of 9.2 ms on the average (ping a host reachable through
the router, not the router itself).

- With PPPoe (and of course netgraph) I get ping roundtrip times of 9.4
ms on the average. Thus the basic netgraph machinery plus userland ppp
adds around 0.2 ms to the roundtrip times. I see no reason to complain
about this.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

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