Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:49:50 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Kruk <meshko@cs.brandeis.edu> To: Ryan Thompson <ryan@sasknow.com> Cc: Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>, <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Majordomo lists security Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0101130148490.27661-100000@daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0101130021480.69511-100000@ren.sasknow.com>
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That's all great, sarcasm on or off, but is there a list server which can be run securely on a multi-user machine? (I assume that just changing permissions on those files does not make majordomo secure. or does it??) > Kris Kennaway wrote to Ryan Thompson: > > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 12:05:10AM -0600, Ryan Thompson wrote: > > > > > > Hmm... Maybe this has been answered before. > > > > > > Is there a GOOD reason that, by default, /usr/local/majordomo/lists is > > > world readable? Does not just the "majordom" user/group ever read the > > > files contained therein? Until now, I've never really had cause to play > > > with majordomo, but I was notably concerned when I saw the administrative > > > password for each list stored clear text in a predictable world readable > > > file/directory. :-) > > > > From the makefile: > > > > .if !defined(BATCH) && !defined(PACKAGE_BUILDING) > > /usr/bin/dialog --yesno "Majordomo is unsafe to use on > > multi-user machines: local users can run > > arbitrary commands as the majordomo user. Do you wish to accept the > > security risk and build majordomo anyway?" 8 60 || ${FALSE} .endif > > > > Kris > > <sarcasm> > Great! > </sarcasm> > > Thanks, Kris. > > I did tighten the permissions on the majordomo lists directories, which > has got to help... though user logins are disabled on the majordomo > machine, so one avenue of attack is closed (or at least severely hampered > :-). > > Can you (or someone, here) provide any suggestions or success stories > they've had with patches or permissions and majordomo? > > - Ryan > > -- > Ryan Thompson <ryan@sasknow.com> > Network Administrator, Accounts > > SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com > #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 > > Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon > Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message
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