Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 03:48:46 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> To: Matteo Riondato <matteo@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd.org>, Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>, Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>, current@freebsd.org, pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: should FreeBSD-dhclient depend on FreeBSD-resolvconf? Message-ID: <20251016034846.3d02dbeea6af57e75f68a8ef@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <822F9D2B-A82F-4765-8765-6604F9F79CBC@FreeBSD.org> References: <324231230.147694.1760527890049@localhost> <aO-QglIdge2VetmF@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <43B68BB6-02FA-470E-A8C5-99D15E3707D7@FreeBSD.org> <aO-TUeDnFPOS6Pds@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <89861E7A-64C7-47CB-89F6-A93AB14813FF@FreeBSD.org> <aO-ZME6G4MbN-0c6@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <3E63F63B-0C90-43E2-BF55-30310B7599D3@FreeBSD.org> <aO-iGGTAFqRTZ8vv@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <7r257p26-qqs6-r1q3-9456-qn3o02rson6r@mx.roble.com> <aO-6w2DbInwIupkH@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <822F9D2B-A82F-4765-8765-6604F9F79CBC@FreeBSD.org>
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 12:05:24 -0400 Matteo Riondato <matteo@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > On Oct 15, 2025, at 11:16 AM, Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > Roger Marquis wrote in <7r257p26-qqs6-r1q3-9456-qn3o02rson6r@mx.roble.com>: > >> I think most of us would define a minimal jail > > > > again -- i appreciate this is not very clear from the package name -- > > the "minimal-jail" set is not "a minimal jail". it is the "minimal" > > set, i.e. the set of packages required for a basic multi-user UNIX > > system, but without packages which don't work in a jail. > > Would calling it “basic-jail” or “standard-jail” (terms used in previous emails on this thread) perhaps be more descriptive? > > Thanks, > Matteo I prefer"minimal" here, as term "standard" should be different case-by-case. For admins who want to run each services exposing to Internet to be run on jails "per service", "minimal" is equal to "standard". But, especially corporate admins who needs "per-emproyee" jails for security, almost full sets of base plus common-apps-of-the-corporate ports should be called "standard (of the corporate)". -- Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
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