Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:05:29 -0800 From: "Sung-Shik Yang" <syang1@cox.rr.com> To: "Kristian Hansen" <kristian.hansen@post.tele.dk> Cc: <freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: cdrom Message-ID: <018a01c1a25a$c622a480$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> References: <006101c1a1a2$fa5171e0$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> <001701c1a199$739ad640$0601a8c0@DELL01>
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Thanks for your tips Kristian.
I think I should do some kind of remote installation. FTP installation maybe the choice. But, this machine only has modem. I have another machine that has Linux on it. Can I use PLIP to do the job? Since this machine I want to install FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not sure if there are any NICs that fit to it. Gosh, I need to set the Linux machine first to explore the option of PLIP.
Once I succeed in FreeBSD installation, recognizing the CDROM drive is going to be the next challenge. Long way to go. Is there any advice on my possible options? Can I set up the Linux machine as the FTP server to get the FreeBSD source?
<Machine A (Linux)> <Machine B (to install FreeBSD)>
Pentium I (233MHz) Pentium I (75MHz)
64MB RAM 40MB RAM
NIC No NIC
Modem (56K) Modem (56K)
Serial/Parallel ports Serial/Parallel ports
I also have a router which connects the Linux machine and another machine running Win98 - I don't regard this machine as an option to use, though.
Sung-Shik Yang
==================================
Make what is impossible possible.
Man can die only once, not twice.
- Special Warfare Command
Do what a man can do,
then wait for heaven's will.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kristian Hansen
To: Sung-Shik Yang
Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: cdrom
Hi,
This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.
The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE interface.
There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device (matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel.
You have two optios for how to install:
1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd driver and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with the install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at this stage, rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount point.
2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you use.
Regards
Kristian Hansen
----- Original Message -----
From: Sung-Shik Yang
To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09 PM
Subject: cdrom
Hi everyone,
I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM. The following is the spec.
Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM
Separate I/O controller card (Winbond chip, SMC chip), which connects to an HDD and an FDD.
One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE Master).
SoundBlaster 16 card.
CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., which made the sound card above.
Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put "user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even before memory checking step. So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot normally.
The sound card has two ports. The indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or something. Currently the CDROM cable is connected to the "IDE interface" port of the sound card. The jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave". So, I guess it signifies that the CDROM should be treated as primary slave IDE device, while the BIOS doesn't even know its presence. Even more strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs fine.
Any ideas or advices?
Sung-Shik Yang
==================================
Make what is impossible possible.
Man can die only once, not twice.
- Special Warfare Command
Do what a man can do,
then wait for heaven's will.
==================================
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<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Thanks for your tips Kristian.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I think I should do some kind of
remote installation. FTP installation maybe the choice. But, this
machine only has modem. I have another machine that has Linux on it.
Can I use PLIP to do the job? Since this machine I want to install
FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not sure if there are any NICs that fit
to it. Gosh, I need to set the Linux machine first to explore the option
of PLIP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Once I succeed in FreeBSD installation,
recognizing the CDROM drive is going to be the next challenge. Long way to
go. Is there any advice on my possible options? Can I set
up the Linux machine as the FTP server to get the FreeBSD
source?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><Machine A
(Linux)> <Machine B (to install
FreeBSD)></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Pentium I
(233MHz) Pentium I
(75MHz)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>64MB
RAM
40MB RAM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>NIC
No NIC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>Modem (56K) Modem
(56K)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Serial/Parallel
ports Serial/Parallel ports</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I also have a router which connects the
Linux machine and another machine running Win98 - I don't regard this
machine as an option to use, though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Sung-Shik Yang<BR>==================================<BR>Make what is
impossible possible.<BR>Man can die only once, not
twice.<BR> - Special Warfare
Command<BR>Do what a man can do, <BR> then wait for heaven's
will.<BR>==================================</DIV>
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<A title=kristian.hansen@post.tele.dk
href="mailto:kristian.hansen@post.tele.dk">Kristian Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=syang1@cox.rr.com
href="mailto:syang1@cox.rr.com">Sung-Shik Yang</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
href="mailto:freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org">freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:01
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cdrom</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT><FONT face="Courier New"
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE
drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x
speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE
interface.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device
(matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You have two optios for how to
install:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd
driver and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed
with the install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at
this stage, rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As
far as I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount
point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a
custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable
connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you
use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kristian Hansen</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=syang1@cox.rr.com href="mailto:syang1@cox.rr.com">Sung-Shik
Yang</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
href="mailto:freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org">freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> cdrom</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on
an old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the
CDROM. The following is the spec.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB
RAM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Separate I/O controller card (Winbond
chip, SMC chip), which connects to an HDD and
an FDD.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE
Master).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>SoundBlaster 16 card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs
Inc., which made the sound card above.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't
define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec.
master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with
cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put "user"(-defined) option there and
make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even before memory
checking step. So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as "none" at
least to boot normally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>The sound card has two ports. The
indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster
Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or something. Currently the CDROM cable is
connected to the "IDE interface" port of the sound card. The
jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave". So, I guess
it signifies that the CDROM should be treated as primary slave IDE
device, while the BIOS doesn't even know its presence. Even more
strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs
fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Any ideas or advices?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Sung-Shik
Yang<BR>==================================<BR>Make what is impossible
possible.<BR>Man can die only once, not
twice.<BR> - Special Warfare
Command<BR>Do what a man can do, <BR> then wait for heaven's
will.<BR>==================================</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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