Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:05:29 -0800 From: "Sung-Shik Yang" <syang1@cox.rr.com> To: "Kristian Hansen" <kristian.hansen@post.tele.dk> Cc: <freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: cdrom Message-ID: <018a01c1a25a$c622a480$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> References: <006101c1a1a2$fa5171e0$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh> <001701c1a199$739ad640$0601a8c0@DELL01>
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Thanks for your tips Kristian.
I think I should do some kind of remote installation. FTP installation =
maybe the choice. But, this machine only has modem. I have another =
machine that has Linux on it. Can I use PLIP to do the job? Since this =
machine I want to install FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not =
sure if there are any NICs that fit to it. Gosh, I need to set the =
Linux machine first to explore the option of PLIP.
Once I succeed in FreeBSD installation, recognizing the CDROM drive is =
going to be the next challenge. Long way to go. Is there any advice on =
my possible options? Can I set up the Linux machine as the FTP server =
to get the FreeBSD source?
<Machine A (Linux)> <Machine B (to install FreeBSD)>
Pentium I (233MHz) Pentium I (75MHz)
64MB RAM 40MB RAM
NIC No NIC
Modem (56K) Modem (56K)
Serial/Parallel ports Serial/Parallel ports
I also have a router which connects the Linux machine and another =
machine running Win98 - I don't regard this machine as an option to use, =
though.
Sung-Shik Yang
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Make what is impossible possible.
Man can die only once, not twice.
- Special Warfare Command
Do what a man can do,=20
then wait for heaven's will.
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Kristian Hansen=20
To: Sung-Shik Yang=20
Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: cdrom
Hi,
This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE drive, hence it does =
not show in the BIOS.
The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x speed drive. It uses a =
proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE interface.
There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device (matcd), but it is not =
in the generic kernel.=20
You have two optios for how to install:
1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd driver and create your =
own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with the install. =
You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at this stage, =
rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as =
I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount point.
2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a custom kernel including =
the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable connection to the =
internet, this is the option I'll recommend you use.
Regards
Kristian Hansen
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Sung-Shik Yang=20
To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09 PM
Subject: cdrom
Hi everyone,
I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an old Pentium machine from =
CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM. The following is the spec.
Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM
Separate I/O controller card (Winbond chip, SMC chip), which =
connects to an HDD and an FDD.
One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE Master).
SoundBlaster 16 card.
CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., which made the sound card =
above.
Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE =
sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. master/slave), but they are specificly =
for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put =
"user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, =
then the setup freezes even before memory checking step. So, I have to =
leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot normally.
The sound card has two ports. The indicator says one of them is =
"IDE interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or =
something. Currently the CDROM cable is connected to the "IDE =
interface" port of the sound card. The jumper at the back of the CDROM =
drive is set as "slave". So, I guess it signifies that the CDROM should =
be treated as primary slave IDE device, while the BIOS doesn't even know =
its presence. Even more strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected =
somehow and runs fine.
Any ideas or advices?
Sung-Shik Yang
=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Make what is impossible possible.
Man can die only once, not twice.
- Special Warfare Command
Do what a man can do,=20
then wait for heaven's will.
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Thanks for your tips =
Kristian.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I think I should do =
some kind of=20
remote installation. FTP installation maybe the choice. But, =
this=20
machine only has modem. I have another machine that has Linux on =
it. =20
Can I use PLIP to do the job? Since this machine I want to =
install=20
FreeBSD on is pretty old machine, I am not sure if there are any NICs =
that fit=20
to it. Gosh, I need to set the Linux machine first to explore the =
option=20
of PLIP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Once I succeed in FreeBSD =
installation,=20
recognizing the CDROM drive is going to be the next challenge. =
Long way to=20
go. Is there any advice on my possible options? Can I set=20
up the Linux machine as the FTP server to get the FreeBSD=20
source?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><Machine A=20
(Linux)> <Machine B (to =
install=20
FreeBSD)></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Pentium I=20
(233MHz) Pentium I=20
(75MHz)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>64MB=20
RAM &nbs=
p; =20
40MB RAM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20
size=3D2>NIC &=
nbsp; =20
No NIC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20
size=3D2>Modem (56K) =
Modem=20
(56K)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Serial/Parallel=20
ports Serial/Parallel ports</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I also have a router which =
connects the=20
Linux machine and another machine running Win98 - I don't regard =
this=20
machine as an option to use, though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Sung-Shik =
Yang<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Make what is=20
impossible possible.<BR>Man can die only once, not=20
twice.<BR> - Special Warfare=20
Command<BR>Do what a man can do, <BR> then wait for heaven's =
will.<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dkristian.hansen@post.tele.dk=20
href=3D"mailto:kristian.hansen@post.tele.dk">Kristian Hansen</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dsyang1@cox.rr.com=20
href=3D"mailto:syang1@cox.rr.com">Sung-Shik Yang</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfreebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20
=
href=3D"mailto:freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org">freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, 2002 =
2:01=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cdrom</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"=20
size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This CD-ROm drive you're using is =
_not_ an IDE=20
drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The drive is likely to be an OEM =
Matshushita 2x=20
speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE =
interface.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a driver for FreeBSD for =
this device=20
(matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You have two optios for how to=20
install:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) Make a custom kernel, including =
the matcd=20
driver and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to =
proceed=20
with the install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd =
drive at=20
this stage, rather you should tell the installer to use a disk =
partition. As=20
far as I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount=20
point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then =
create a=20
custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and =
stable=20
connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you=20
use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kristian Hansen</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsyang1@cox.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:syang1@cox.rr.com">Sung-Shik=20
Yang</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dfreebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20
=
href=3D"mailto:freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org">freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, =
2002 12:09=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> cdrom</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I was trying to install =
FreeBSD 4.4 on=20
an old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the=20
CDROM. The following is the spec.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB=20
RAM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Separate I/O controller =
card (Winbond=20
chip, SMC chip), which connects to an HDD and=20
an FDD.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE=20
Master).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>SoundBlaster 16 =
card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>CDROM manufactured by =
Creative Labs=20
Inc., which made the sound card above.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Strange thing is, the BIOS =
wouldn't=20
define the CDROM. There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, =
Sec.=20
master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with=20
cyl/head/sec stuff. If I just put "user"(-defined) option =
there and=20
make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even =
before memory=20
checking step. So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as =
"none" at=20
least to boot normally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>The sound card has two =
ports. The=20
indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is =
"SoundBlaster=20
Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or something. Currently the CDROM =
cable is=20
connected to the "IDE interface" port of the sound =
card. The=20
jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave". So, I =
guess=20
it signifies that the CDROM should be treated =
as primary slave IDE=20
device, while the BIOS doesn't even know its presence. =
Even more=20
strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs=20
fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Any ideas or =
advices?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Sung-Shik=20
=
Yang<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Make what is impossible=20
possible.<BR>Man can die only once, not=20
twice.<BR> - Special =
Warfare=20
Command<BR>Do what a man can do, <BR> then wait for =
heaven's=20
=
will.<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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