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Date:      Sat, 23 Oct 2004 01:45:15 -0600
From:      Danny MacMillan <flowers@users.sourceforge.net>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:    [OT] Sapir-Whorfian Advertising Clause (was Advertising clause in license)
Message-ID:  <20041023074515.GB920@procyon.nekulturny.org>
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNOEIEEPAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
References:  <20041022203551.85768.qmail@web54101.mail.yahoo.com> <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNOEIEEPAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>

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On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 08:50:13PM -0600, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> Nell,
> 
>   Just a request, please do not use the term "advertising clause"
> 
> This is a term that was created by the Linux bigots, specifically
> people like RMS who is so bigoted he can't see beyond the tip
> of his nose.  It has never been "advertising" before to give
> credit to the authors of a software package until the pro-GPL-anti-BSD
> crowd came along.  It has also never been a burden of any kind
> to include credit to UCB until people started to think it was
> because the GPL crowd told them.  And many companies used BSD
> code without giving credit, and nobody cared.  (for example,
> Microsoft who used plenty of BSD code including BSD header files
> that still had the BSD copyrights in them)

Be that as it may, the term "advertising clause" seems strictly
definitive, as it pertains to a clause that refers to advertising.
That much at least seems obvious from what Nell fgrep'd for.  I
don't disagree with the substance of your point, but it is counter-
productive to redefine language to suit one's political agenda.

>   I think it is either extremely mean-spirited to make a big
> deal over this or it is a subtle BSD-bash to do so.  Nobody in
> the BSD community ever coined the term "advertising-clause" this
> was forced on us from without, and there is no reason to use
> it.
> 
> Ted Mittelstaedt
> 
> ...

-- 
Danny



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