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Date:      Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:12:44 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Rick Hamell <hamellr@heorot.1nova.com>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Newbies web page [was: -newbies]
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0010131002550.24921-100000@heorot.1nova.com>
In-Reply-To: <20001015043318.F2537@welearn.com.au>

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> > I'd be willing to guess that there are many new people here since you
> > last posted that. Please don't think I'm slamming you, but I do not
> > believe you can make a statement as above.
> 
> Fine. I seem to remember you being a newbie, oh, a couple of years ago?

	About 3 years... in fact until very recently I still considered
myself a newbie. That is why I am now trying to help the newbies help
themselves. :)

> > 	Um... that's why I personally am trying to fix the problems with
> > -newbies. That's why I've created my webpage with good links for
> > newbies. 
> 
> Good on you! Well done!
> 
> This is a good example of what we're talking about. How about linking
> back to the FreeBSD Newbies page so that they know it's there?
> I know you adore the newbies page, because you've never submitted any
> improvements.

	I already have, I just have to upload it. As for the newbies page,
again I am now to the point where I feel comfortable in adding my two
cents worth in. Once I get the a few other projects out of the way, I will
be attacking the Newbies page. I then plan on helping with the handbook
and any where else I can. I also need to go through my notes over the last
three years and HTMLize them.
	Please Sue, do not think I am attacking you personally. I
appreciate what you have done for the FreeBSD project, especially with
-newbies. I simply believe that you have become tired and/or too busy to
deal with it like you use too. It's been a thankless job, and you
weathered it well. I simply want see your work not go in vain. My call to
completly remove -newbies may have been extreme, but it has come up with
what I believe is a viable alternative, a rename of the list to something
that will keep questions where they belong and can get answered, yet still
provide those new to the project a place to talk and get help as they can.

					Rick

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